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The 2021 data shows heavy movement away from california and ny toward texas and florida. California, Illinois, Michigan, New York, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and West
by incomingpain 5y ago
The 2021 data shows heavy movement away from california and ny toward texas and florida.
California, Illinois, Michigan, New York, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and West Virginia are all losing representation in the house. Due to losing population.
Is it climate fears? I would tend to agree that those states who are losing people will also be the states in which they care about climate.
Or is it because of poor governance?
- DoreenMichele 5y agoCalifornia has been exporting poor people for years. Texas is one of the states they move to. Florida is a destination for retirees due to the temperate weather and tax policies, so could correlate to an aging population.
- TrispusAttucks 5y agoExporting poor people while importing homeless people.
- DoreenMichele 5y agoYes.
- pkaye 5y agoThe weather in California is pretty comfortable year around which suits the homeless well. Many states are scorching hot or freezing cold some time of the year.
- jeffbee 5y agoCalifornia doesn't import homeless people, it creates them through its special sauce of a white-hot economy and zero tolerance for housing construction.
- hedora 5y agoAnd also zero tolerance for mental health care. (Thanks, Governor Regan, for killing off what used to be a functional system!)
- incomingpain 5y agoI haven't been able to find data like that to show if they are poor or wealthy. I suspect poor is the only demographic not moving, which is a general migration rule. Moving costs $. Folks like Elon Musk moving to Texas probably brought significant numbers of wealthy folks with him. Not to mention, when work from home became an option. The elites of california moved to texas. Perhaps it was poor people before, during covid that changed would be my guess.
- DoreenMichele 5y agoThis seems to be a transcript of a now paywalled article from a California newspaper: https://groups.google.com/g/alt.religion.scientology/c/0Uq5J4r_6DI https://groups.google.com/g/alt.religion.scientology/c/0Uq5J... Though certainly covid fostered migration of privileged remote workers as well.
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- CameronNemo 5y ago2021 data or the 2020 census? The latter is frankly poor quality data. I wouldn't use it as a primary source.
- incomingpain 5y ago>2021 data or the 2020 census? The latter is frankly poor quality data. I wouldn't use it as a primary source. What arguments do you have suggesting it's poor quality? Also I'm not sure there's any good arguments. It's obvious covid restrictions easing in florida and texas quite early and might I say successfully will play a significant role in why this happened. Not to mention the significant economic windfall that they will gain for having done so.
- jeffbee 5y agoWhy do you need this tortured explanation when the obvious explanation is so much more ... obvious? People migrate away from housing crises.
- incomingpain 5y ago>Why do you need this tortured explanation when the obvious explanation is so much more ... obvious? People migrate away from housing crises. Also a very good point. I wasn't saying the covid restrictions factor was the only option.
- CameronNemo 5y agoCOVID-19 policies in different states is completely irrelevant to the 2020 census -- the census was done using pre-pandemic data. Hence why I consider the results highly misleading relative to our current world.
- jdkee 5y agoFor Illinois a contributing factor is poor governance consisting of high taxes, massive unfunded state obligations, a single party legislature that cemented its power by gerrymandering districts, etc. And the climate.