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Wikipedia has a list. The list is out of date. I was adding to it to bring it up to date. There was never any suggestion that these people shouldn't be there

Wikipedia has a list. The list is out of date. I was adding to it to bring it up to date. There was never any suggestion that these people shouldn't be there. There was never any mention of removing material from the original article. As for notability, every US senator, General or head of even the most minor agency seems to have a wikipedia page these days, along with all their wives/husbands and kids. I don't see those pages being deleted when they leave office.

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tptacek 5y ago
Every one of those pages has citations to reliable secondary sources (if they don't, you can get them deleted by referring them to AfD). If you can provide sources for the person you want to write about, a source that includes some argument for their notability, your article will survive too. It's frustrating, some of the pages that manage to survive on WP by dint of flimsy sources that have written about them. I spent a bunch of months trying to push back on spam pages in my own field on WP and ultimately gave up. But there's a reason it's like this: it's an all-volunteer project, and they have to draw a line somewhere, and it has to be a line that's easy for (very) part-time volunteers to quickly and cheaply adjudicate. WP:RS is exactly such a line.
endless1234 5y ago
> Wikipedia has a list. The list is out of date. I was adding to it to bring it up to date. If your source for these updates was basically "I'm family, trust me bro", isn't this a case of WP's verifiability for once working well?
- ZeroGravitas 5y ago
  Also, there's some extra rules around people that are still alive, not sure if it's politeness, not wanting to get sued or used for harassment but probably worth bearing in mind if you're frustrated that they won't let you add random family members.

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Wikipedia has a list. The list is out of date. I was adding to it to bring it up to date. There was never any suggestion that these people shouldn't be there

by sandworm101 5y ago

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tptacek 5y ago
Every one of those pages has citations to reliable secondary sources (if they don't, you can get them deleted by referring them to AfD). If you can provide sources for the person you want to write about, a source that includes some argument for their notability, your article will survive too. It's frustrating, some of the pages that manage to survive on WP by dint of flimsy sources that have written about them. I spent a bunch of months trying to push back on spam pages in my own field on WP and ultimately gave up. But there's a reason it's like this: it's an all-volunteer project, and they have to draw a line somewhere, and it has to be a line that's easy for (very) part-time volunteers to quickly and cheaply adjudicate. WP:RS is exactly such a line.
endless1234 5y ago
> Wikipedia has a list. The list is out of date. I was adding to it to bring it up to date. If your source for these updates was basically "I'm family, trust me bro", isn't this a case of WP's verifiability for once working well?
- ZeroGravitas 5y ago
  Also, there's some extra rules around people that are still alive, not sure if it's politeness, not wanting to get sued or used for harassment but probably worth bearing in mind if you're frustrated that they won't let you add random family members.