> If there is a quality shoulder then the law tells them to stay on the shoulder. This is completely separate from single file vs. side by side. Just stay on th

> If there is a quality shoulder then the law tells them to stay on the shoulder. This is completely separate from single file vs. side by side. Just stay on the shoulder. Even single file in the lane would break the rule. If side by side fits in the shoulder then they can do that too. Yes. So the situation I’ve been writing about is where there is a quality shoulder, but the cyclists going side-by-side end up jutting into the driving lane. This is because there isn’t enough space for two cyclists to reliably stay in that shoulder. If cyclists don’t proactively go back to single file, at this point a car has swerve out partially into oncoming traffic or brake check and down to bike speeds and wait for the cyclists go back into their lane. Either decision creates hazards to other drivers and other cyclists. So no, in the context I’ve been dealing with weekly these aren’t separate issues. > Cars shouldn't have to slow down quite that much, but overall yes cars might have to wait a couple seconds as they approach the bikes and show intent to pass. A 40 to 50 mph service means going down to 25 mph. That impedes traffic and it’s dangerous, especially when you consider that cyclists are less visible to begin with. The best outcomes are where cyclists proactively move, when they hear the courtesy honk. Weekend cyclists having a conversation don’t care.