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I thought at first this is a joke, but no. It should be called the Windows 10 Spy Edition - removing/replacing crypto so it can be decrypted by the government.

by kerng 4y ago

I thought at first this is a joke, but no. It should be called the Windows 10 Spy Edition - removing/replacing crypto so it can be decrypted by the government... Something like this should get a lot more attention and Satya Nadella should clarify why they support this?

thatguy0900 4y ago
More like windows 10 were not spying edition. Probably the only one Microsoft doesn't have insight into what youre doing on it. China has access to their source code.
- LegitShady 4y ago
  It probably spies even more than regular windows 10, it just reports the results to someone else.
belter 4y ago
Windows 10 Russia Edition soon?
smoldesu 4y ago
This is nothing new. Apple does (or rather, did) the same thing, by making versions of MacOS/iOS that funnel data directly to the CCP and utilize domestically owned and controlled servers. Unfortunately, catering to China seems to be the norm in this space.
- neilalexander 4y ago
  Do they (Microsoft/Apple/whoever) really have much of a choice? The alternative would likely be that their products end up banned if they don’t satisfy the government. Not really a China-specific problem either — strikes me that the same would be true in many countries.
  - smoldesu 4y ago
    I mean, they do have an option. Companies like Google, Netflix and parts of Amazon are completely unavailable in China. Their option is to not be complicit in data collection for their oppressive government, but greed and disrespect for user privacy usually triumphs.
    - sidibe 4y ago
      Funnily, Google has gotten way more flak for China on here than MS because of Project Dragonfly, a little secret project that was testing the waters of going back in with search (that got squelched by their employees as soon as they found about it) while Bing has been fully accessible in China to this day
    - t0mas88 4y ago
      Google doesn't like collecting data for the Chinese government, but at the same time they collect everything they can get their hands on for their own benefit. And let's not forget that the US government has access to Google's data. They just promise not to use it against US citizens, which is both a lie and not very helpful to let's say Europeans.
      - smoldesu 4y ago
        The US government has access to everyone's data, including (but not limited to) Apple, Microsoft and Amazon's data. This is not really a surprise.

by kerng 4y ago

thatguy0900 4y ago

More like windows 10 were not spying edition. Probably the only one Microsoft doesn't have insight into what youre doing on it. China has access to their source code.

LegitShady 4y ago
It probably spies even more than regular windows 10, it just reports the results to someone else.

belter 4y ago

Windows 10 Russia Edition soon?

smoldesu 4y ago

This is nothing new. Apple does (or rather, did) the same thing, by making versions of MacOS/iOS that funnel data directly to the CCP and utilize domestically owned and controlled servers. Unfortunately, catering to China seems to be the norm in this space.

neilalexander 4y ago
Do they (Microsoft/Apple/whoever) really have much of a choice? The alternative would likely be that their products end up banned if they don’t satisfy the government. Not really a China-specific problem either — strikes me that the same would be true in many countries.
- smoldesu 4y ago
  I mean, they do have an option. Companies like Google, Netflix and parts of Amazon are completely unavailable in China. Their option is to not be complicit in data collection for their oppressive government, but greed and disrespect for user privacy usually triumphs.
  - sidibe 4y ago
    Funnily, Google has gotten way more flak for China on here than MS because of Project Dragonfly, a little secret project that was testing the waters of going back in with search (that got squelched by their employees as soon as they found about it) while Bing has been fully accessible in China to this day
  - t0mas88 4y ago
    Google doesn't like collecting data for the Chinese government, but at the same time they collect everything they can get their hands on for their own benefit. And let's not forget that the US government has access to Google's data. They just promise not to use it against US citizens, which is both a lie and not very helpful to let's say Europeans.
    - smoldesu 4y ago
      The US government has access to everyone's data, including (but not limited to) Apple, Microsoft and Amazon's data. This is not really a surprise.