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It's called RSS. and a feed reader. I swear, people are too busy re-inventing the wheel when it already exists. use one of the literal hundreds of free service

It's called RSS. and a feed reader. I swear, people are too busy re-inventing the wheel when it already exists. use one of the literal hundreds of free services to write what you want and syndicate it. and use the same system to ingest exactly what you want. We hit the nail on the head 2 decades ago. It's been rusting since.

jimkleiber 5y ago
That works for the consumption side, but at least from what I've seen (it's been a while), the feed readers don't have so much share/comment/like side to them. Frankly, they seem to miss the social side. Again, maybe I'm just not using the right feed readers, but when I use some these days, they feel somewhat isolated, just receiving info, not also sending it.
- derekzhouzhen 5y ago
  Shameless plug: Airss does that. https://airss.roastidio.us https://airss.roastidio.us The reader can be used without login. To comment and share, you need to login to https://roastidio.us https://roastidio.us (free open registration) Warning: I have very few users. So you will still feel isolated, unless you can gather a community yourself.
  - jimkleiber 4y ago
    Ooo, I like the concept. I just logged in and submitted one for this URL: https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/04/18/world/ukraine-russia-war-news https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/04/18/world/ukraine-russia... Two things come up for me: 1. I'm curious, how do you imagine people will discover there are comments on a specific URL? Will it show up in their browser? An embed that sites can use to show it on their site? Other? 2. I found that the name made me feel a little confused and hesitant to engage, because I didn't want to roast the article I submitted. I get the feeling you started in one direction and may be opening up, but I'm not sure.
    - derekzhouzhen 4y ago
      1, If you claim it, the comment will be sent to you via email. A cooperating web site can also embed the link. I am against javascript embedding though; too much of a privacy leak. So you cannot embed the comments directly in the original web site. 2, Admittedly the name is somewhat provoking. My point is to encourage different opinions. You have to find some value it the stuff that you roast or you will not spend your time commenting, right?
      - jimkleiber 4y ago
        1, sweet, that sounds good. 2, I personally see roast as one type of emotional attack or speech act (still looking for a better term for it), along with praise, question, supplement, etc. I don't roast things much but I do the others so personally I may feel a bit repelled by the name. However others may feel attracted by it, there are lots of us internet folk :-) good luck!
- d110af5ccf 5y ago
  Many sites including HN (https://news.ycombinator.com/rss https://news.ycombinator.com/rss) provide RSS feeds, so you could presumably navigate to the relevant page for the share/comment/like functionality. I realize that's not ideal but it seems well within reason to me. Software exists to translate RSS feeds to ActivityPub actors (ex https://github.com/dariusk/rss-to-activitypub https://github.com/dariusk/rss-to-activitypub). Going the other direction, Pleroma provides RSS feeds. Not sure about Mastodon or Misskey.
  - jimkleiber 4y ago
    > so you could presumably navigate to the relevant page for the share/comment/like functionality. I realize that's not ideal but it seems well within reason to me. Oh yeah, I could. I guess I'm just believing more and more in the power of a familiar interface. I feel somewhat comfortable hopping around different sites and creating all sorts of accounts (on my computer, less so on my phone), yet I imagine many really don't want that hassle. If the comment box were the same everywhere, that could help, but still, I find sometimes if it takes that extra effort, I often won't do it. > Software exists to translate RSS feeds to ActivityPub actors (ex https://github.com/dariusk/rss-to-activitypub https://github.com/dariusk/rss-to-activitypub). Going the other direction, Pleroma provides RSS feeds. I may check it out for some of my sites, thank you.
hk__2 5y ago
Are there some readers that do some content curation for you on top of your subscriptions? The biggest issue I had with RSS (besides content discovery) is that some people blog multiple times a week while others only once in a while. I would like something that limits the amount of content I get based on how much they post: posts from people who blog only once in a while should be more prominently visible than others. Some way to mark posts as "I want more of that" or "I don't want more of that" would also be helpful to improve the curation without having to manually tweak parameters.

jimkleiber 5y ago

That works for the consumption side, but at least from what I've seen (it's been a while), the feed readers don't have so much share/comment/like side to them. Frankly, they seem to miss the social side. Again, maybe I'm just not using the right feed readers, but when I use some these days, they feel somewhat isolated, just receiving info, not also sending it.

derekzhouzhen 5y ago
Shameless plug: Airss does that. https://airss.roastidio.us https://airss.roastidio.us The reader can be used without login. To comment and share, you need to login to https://roastidio.us https://roastidio.us (free open registration) Warning: I have very few users. So you will still feel isolated, unless you can gather a community yourself.
- jimkleiber 4y ago
  Ooo, I like the concept. I just logged in and submitted one for this URL: https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/04/18/world/ukraine-russia-war-news https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/04/18/world/ukraine-russia... Two things come up for me: 1. I'm curious, how do you imagine people will discover there are comments on a specific URL? Will it show up in their browser? An embed that sites can use to show it on their site? Other? 2. I found that the name made me feel a little confused and hesitant to engage, because I didn't want to roast the article I submitted. I get the feeling you started in one direction and may be opening up, but I'm not sure.
  - derekzhouzhen 4y ago
    1, If you claim it, the comment will be sent to you via email. A cooperating web site can also embed the link. I am against javascript embedding though; too much of a privacy leak. So you cannot embed the comments directly in the original web site. 2, Admittedly the name is somewhat provoking. My point is to encourage different opinions. You have to find some value it the stuff that you roast or you will not spend your time commenting, right?
    - jimkleiber 4y ago
      1, sweet, that sounds good. 2, I personally see roast as one type of emotional attack or speech act (still looking for a better term for it), along with praise, question, supplement, etc. I don't roast things much but I do the others so personally I may feel a bit repelled by the name. However others may feel attracted by it, there are lots of us internet folk :-) good luck!
d110af5ccf 5y ago
Many sites including HN (https://news.ycombinator.com/rss https://news.ycombinator.com/rss) provide RSS feeds, so you could presumably navigate to the relevant page for the share/comment/like functionality. I realize that's not ideal but it seems well within reason to me. Software exists to translate RSS feeds to ActivityPub actors (ex https://github.com/dariusk/rss-to-activitypub https://github.com/dariusk/rss-to-activitypub). Going the other direction, Pleroma provides RSS feeds. Not sure about Mastodon or Misskey.
- jimkleiber 4y ago
  > so you could presumably navigate to the relevant page for the share/comment/like functionality. I realize that's not ideal but it seems well within reason to me. Oh yeah, I could. I guess I'm just believing more and more in the power of a familiar interface. I feel somewhat comfortable hopping around different sites and creating all sorts of accounts (on my computer, less so on my phone), yet I imagine many really don't want that hassle. If the comment box were the same everywhere, that could help, but still, I find sometimes if it takes that extra effort, I often won't do it. > Software exists to translate RSS feeds to ActivityPub actors (ex https://github.com/dariusk/rss-to-activitypub https://github.com/dariusk/rss-to-activitypub). Going the other direction, Pleroma provides RSS feeds. I may check it out for some of my sites, thank you.

hk__2 5y ago

Are there some readers that do some content curation for you on top of your subscriptions? The biggest issue I had with RSS (besides content discovery) is that some people blog multiple times a week while others only once in a while. I would like something that limits the amount of content I get based on how much they post: posts from people who blog only once in a while should be more prominently visible than others. Some way to mark posts as "I want more of that" or "I don't want more of that" would also be helpful to improve the curation without having to manually tweak parameters.