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> there is no substantial definition of "empire" by which the U.S. is an empire I'm genuinely curious about your take on that. I've had the assumption that th
by mikem170 5y ago
> there is no substantial definition of "empire" by which the U.S. is an empire
I'm genuinely curious about your take on that.
I've had the assumption that the U.S. control over so much of the world's economics and security amounts to running an empire - stuff like exporting inflation via the worlds reserve currency and selling treasury bonds (modern tribute), worldwide control over trade using a navy with more tonnage than all of our enemies combined, military bases in 80 countries, things like the Monroe Doctrine enforcing our interests over an entire continent, decades of using the CIA and other means to replace governments in other countries that we don't like, wars in the past to secure our supply of oil, funding proxy wars to destabilize up and coming regional powers, exporting our drug and copyright laws to the rest of the world, running the worlds financial networks, restricting trade in territories we control like Puerto Rico, exported our culture to the rest of the world, etc. For decades we seem to have dominated a large swath of the world in ways that other western countries, like Canada for example, do not. There's even a long Wikipedia article on American Imperialism [0].
Does the definition of empire preclude the idea of modern empires not following the same methods of past empires? Or am I missing something else?
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_imperialism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_imperialism
- NoImmatureAdHom 5y ago> Does the definition of empire preclude the idea of modern empires not following the same methods of past empires? Yes, basically. There's a long wikipedia article on American imperialism because it's a popular trope among blue-team coastal elites. Here's A Collection of Unmitigated Pedantry on empires: https://acoup.blog/2019/11/22/collections-why-are-there-no-empires-in-age-of-empires/ https://acoup.blog/2019/11/22/collections-why-are-there-no-e... "...an empire is a state where the core ruling population exercises control and extracts resources from a periphery which is composed of people other than the core group (linguistically/culturally/ethnically/religiously distinct). So an empire is a state where one set of people (the core) extract resources (typically by force) from another set of people (the periphery)." You could argue that descriptive linguistics blah blah basically the word just means "really powerful state" now. And maybe it does to a lot of people, or maybe that's where we're headed, but it makes me sad and I don't think we're there yet.