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This can quite backfire if you like everything else about the company. They could quite easily just say "well then go." Also it might make it clear that you hav

This can quite backfire if you like everything else about the company. They could quite easily just say "well then go." Also it might make it clear that you have a certain flight risk. I personally would never go the counteroffer route, regardless. If you want more money and you have a better offer just take that one.

notch656a 4y ago
Not being willing to negotiate in good faith is a sign of poor business acumen and low emotional intelligence. Clearly stating you can't go any lower/higher and 'take it or leave it' is fine -- getting offended or reneging the offer purely because someone has the balls to negotiate is just childish.
- k8sToGo 4y ago
  That's not what I meant. But if your mind is already set on probably leaving, then why would any manager still count on you and schedule you in any sprints or projects?
mirceal 4y ago
nope. you’ll end up underpaid and over the years leave a lot of money you deserve on the table. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Best_alternative_to_a_negotiated_agreement https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Best_alternative_to_a_negoti... Get the competing offer. Negotiate. Having a competing offer is a super strong signal for someone that is trying to hire you. It tells them you not only cleared their interviews but also cleared other interviews. It’s a hallmark of a competent person.
- k8sToGo 4y ago
  I never said to not get a competing offer. I said not to take (accept) a counteroffer. In fact, I think it is good practice to do interviews every once in a while to see what the market is willing to pay for you.
  - mirceal 4y ago
    huh. i guess i misread the whole thing. agree with not accepting a counteroffer. in fact, if it goes to that, you probably don’t want to work there anymore
spacemanmatt 4y ago
When your workforce has mobility, everyone is a flight risk.
- k8sToGo 4y ago
  Yes. So why not just accept the competing offer anyways?
  - spacemanmatt 4y ago
    Maybe you rather keep your current job, everything else considered.

notch656a 4y ago

Not being willing to negotiate in good faith is a sign of poor business acumen and low emotional intelligence. Clearly stating you can't go any lower/higher and 'take it or leave it' is fine -- getting offended or reneging the offer purely because someone has the balls to negotiate is just childish.

k8sToGo 4y ago
That's not what I meant. But if your mind is already set on probably leaving, then why would any manager still count on you and schedule you in any sprints or projects?

mirceal 4y ago

nope. you’ll end up underpaid and over the years leave a lot of money you deserve on the table. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Best_alternative_to_a_negotiated_agreement https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Best_alternative_to_a_negoti... Get the competing offer. Negotiate. Having a competing offer is a super strong signal for someone that is trying to hire you. It tells them you not only cleared their interviews but also cleared other interviews. It’s a hallmark of a competent person.

k8sToGo 4y ago
I never said to not get a competing offer. I said not to take (accept) a counteroffer. In fact, I think it is good practice to do interviews every once in a while to see what the market is willing to pay for you.
- mirceal 4y ago
  huh. i guess i misread the whole thing. agree with not accepting a counteroffer. in fact, if it goes to that, you probably don’t want to work there anymore

spacemanmatt 4y ago

When your workforce has mobility, everyone is a flight risk.

k8sToGo 4y ago
Yes. So why not just accept the competing offer anyways?
- spacemanmatt 4y ago
  Maybe you rather keep your current job, everything else considered.