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Install Teams

cyberge99 4y ago
Teams is absolute garbage. Every single app on my MBMax opens instantly except for teams (and Affinity Photo, which I’d expect). It literally takes 15 seconds to join a meeting with one of the fastest user computers available. Absolutely horrible garbage of an app. Microsoft has zero incentive to fix it, because they have a captive audience i. Their enterprise customers.
- butlerm 4y ago
  It might have serious problems on the Mac. On Windows it is generally quite nice, and I have never seen any unusual delay joining a meeting. Warm startup for the application is about three seconds on a relatively old machine.
  - GeekyBear 4y ago
    >Teams is set to automatically open and run in the background as soon as you start your device. If you close the app, it keeps running in the background. https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/change-settings-in-teams-b506e8f1-1a96-4cf1-8c6b-b6ed4f424bc7 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/change-settings-i...
    - butlerm 4y ago
      Yes, and it still takes three seconds to warm start.
      - GeekyBear 4y ago
        It's taking that long just to display the UI for a program already running in the background. An apples to apples comparison would require you to change the settings to disable autostart on Windows.
        butlerm 4y ago
        If it takes 15 seconds to get Teams on a Mac to do anything substantial like start up or start a meeting, it would hardly be a surprise if no one wanted to use it. Perhaps Microsoft should do something about it, or rewrite Teams using an efficient technology, I don't know.
markbeare 4y ago
Haha totally! That’s the true test
criddell 4y ago
The better our hardware gets, the more we are willing to accept shitty software.
- mytailorisrich 4y ago
  I think it's more like the better the hardware gets the crappier the software can be and still be usable.
  - neilalexander 4y ago
    ... or that it's just a lot less likely that you'd notice a problem with CPU or memory usage unless you just happened to be looking at a process monitor, due to the abundance of system resources these days. I often wonder whether the art of profiling during software development is dead.
grishka 4y ago
At some point I realized that most (all?) Electron apps have web versions that work just fine, and sometimes even better, in the one instance of Chromium I run anyway. I don't need Teams nor Slack (thankfully), but I do use Discord in a browser tab.
- motoboi 4y ago
  In my experience, running on firefox is just faster and more responsive. Even WhatsApp, which seemed to be a pretty light app, run smoother on Firefox than chrome or electron.

Install Teams

Teams is absolute garbage. Every single app on my MBMax opens instantly except for teams (and Affinity Photo, which I’d expect). It literally takes 15 seconds to join a meeting with one of the fastest user computers available. Absolutely horrible garbage of an app. Microsoft has zero incentive to fix it, because they have a captive audience i. Their enterprise customers.

butlerm 4y ago
It might have serious problems on the Mac. On Windows it is generally quite nice, and I have never seen any unusual delay joining a meeting. Warm startup for the application is about three seconds on a relatively old machine.
- GeekyBear 4y ago
  >Teams is set to automatically open and run in the background as soon as you start your device. If you close the app, it keeps running in the background. https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/change-settings-in-teams-b506e8f1-1a96-4cf1-8c6b-b6ed4f424bc7 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/change-settings-i...
  - butlerm 4y ago
    Yes, and it still takes three seconds to warm start.
    - GeekyBear 4y ago
      It's taking that long just to display the UI for a program already running in the background. An apples to apples comparison would require you to change the settings to disable autostart on Windows.
      - butlerm 4y ago
        If it takes 15 seconds to get Teams on a Mac to do anything substantial like start up or start a meeting, it would hardly be a surprise if no one wanted to use it. Perhaps Microsoft should do something about it, or rewrite Teams using an efficient technology, I don't know.

markbeare 4y ago

Haha totally! That’s the true test

criddell 4y ago

The better our hardware gets, the more we are willing to accept shitty software.

mytailorisrich 4y ago
I think it's more like the better the hardware gets the crappier the software can be and still be usable.
- neilalexander 4y ago
  ... or that it's just a lot less likely that you'd notice a problem with CPU or memory usage unless you just happened to be looking at a process monitor, due to the abundance of system resources these days. I often wonder whether the art of profiling during software development is dead.

grishka 4y ago

At some point I realized that most (all?) Electron apps have web versions that work just fine, and sometimes even better, in the one instance of Chromium I run anyway. I don't need Teams nor Slack (thankfully), but I do use Discord in a browser tab.

motoboi 4y ago
In my experience, running on firefox is just faster and more responsive. Even WhatsApp, which seemed to be a pretty light app, run smoother on Firefox than chrome or electron.