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FSD, Starlink never being jammed in Ukraine, Tesla Solar Roofs, and other such things are all things Musk has hyped up that are somewhat counter factual. Why d

FSD, Starlink never being jammed in Ukraine, Tesla Solar Roofs, and other such things are all things Musk has hyped up that are somewhat counter factual. Why does it matter where he came from?

ehvatum 4y ago
Because he’s an immigrant that made good on the American dream. That’s a powerful thing - some might even dare say, inspiring. I realize he’s white, so it doesn’t count, but it should.
- JaimeThompson 4y ago
  Very interesting editing to your original post, when making such drastic edits that change the tone as much as you did it would be useful to make note of them so everyone knows. You asked about things he had said/promoted, or something like that, which I listed in the first sentence of my response, care to respond to them?
- orestarod 4y ago
  He was a RICH immigrant that made good on the American Dream. Having a truckload of money ready for you before you venture out in the world would be inspiring for anyone, believe me.
  - cute_boi 4y ago
    Exactly! Many people underestimate the value of privileges'. Privileges' give "unfair" advantage. Anyway, there are many people like these and Elon is few among them that have successful ventures like Tesla or SpaceX.
  - memish 4y ago
    He may have started with less than the median American when he emigrated. Rich parent doesn't always equal rich kids. The ones that are mostly just consume. It's plainly obvious he's not some rich trust fund kid. Which is why so many people are threatened by Elon's success and project their own insecurity onto him. Unresolved personal insecurity and envy are a potent combination. I promise this is unhelpful and it's better to resolve one's own insecurity than to spend time projecting it.
    - cowsandmilk 4y ago
      > He may have started with less than the median American when he emigrated Except it is known that he didn’t. There is no need to speculate on the facts. Elon Musk is far more successful than anyone else who started with his financial resources. He has outperformed everyone in his wealth bracket. There’s no need to pretend he was abandoned by his family and came to the US destitute.
      - memish 4y ago
        Do we know that? There are internet rumors vs what he, his mom and brother say about him showering at the YMCA and only being able to afford one computer when starting Zip2. That's why I said "may have", because his mom and brother aren't non-bias sources, and nor are insecure people on the Internet who want to explain away why they have achieved little despite having relatively the same or more privilege. The latter project this discomfort the most aggressively.
  - jeremiahhs 4y ago
    Proof that he was rich? Everything I've read says he arrived to America with a couple grand.
    - JaimeThompson 4y ago
      Assuming this is correct he had money from someplace. https://www.investopedia.com.cach3.com/university/elon-musk-biography/elon-musk-early-life-and-education.asp.html https://www.investopedia.com.cach3.com/university/elon-musk-... "After two years at Queen's University, Musk transferred to the University of Pennsylvania. He took on two majors, but his time there wasn’t all work and no play. With a fellow student, he bought a 10-bedroom fraternity house, which they used as an ad hoc nightclub."
    - tough 4y ago
      https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/elon-musk-millionaire-siblings-000954891.html https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/elon-musk-millionaire-sibl...
      - lupire 4y ago
        That says his father claimed to be rich on the past, and the Musk children made about $100M each from selling zip2 which they founded.

FSD, Starlink never being jammed in Ukraine, Tesla Solar Roofs, and other such things are all things Musk has hyped up that are somewhat counter factual. Why does it matter where he came from?

ehvatum 4y ago

Because he’s an immigrant that made good on the American dream. That’s a powerful thing - some might even dare say, inspiring. I realize he’s white, so it doesn’t count, but it should.

JaimeThompson 4y ago
Very interesting editing to your original post, when making such drastic edits that change the tone as much as you did it would be useful to make note of them so everyone knows. You asked about things he had said/promoted, or something like that, which I listed in the first sentence of my response, care to respond to them?
orestarod 4y ago
He was a RICH immigrant that made good on the American Dream. Having a truckload of money ready for you before you venture out in the world would be inspiring for anyone, believe me.
- cute_boi 4y ago
  Exactly! Many people underestimate the value of privileges'. Privileges' give "unfair" advantage. Anyway, there are many people like these and Elon is few among them that have successful ventures like Tesla or SpaceX.
- memish 4y ago
  He may have started with less than the median American when he emigrated. Rich parent doesn't always equal rich kids. The ones that are mostly just consume. It's plainly obvious he's not some rich trust fund kid. Which is why so many people are threatened by Elon's success and project their own insecurity onto him. Unresolved personal insecurity and envy are a potent combination. I promise this is unhelpful and it's better to resolve one's own insecurity than to spend time projecting it.
  - cowsandmilk 4y ago
    > He may have started with less than the median American when he emigrated Except it is known that he didn’t. There is no need to speculate on the facts. Elon Musk is far more successful than anyone else who started with his financial resources. He has outperformed everyone in his wealth bracket. There’s no need to pretend he was abandoned by his family and came to the US destitute.
    - memish 4y ago
      Do we know that? There are internet rumors vs what he, his mom and brother say about him showering at the YMCA and only being able to afford one computer when starting Zip2. That's why I said "may have", because his mom and brother aren't non-bias sources, and nor are insecure people on the Internet who want to explain away why they have achieved little despite having relatively the same or more privilege. The latter project this discomfort the most aggressively.
- jeremiahhs 4y ago
  Proof that he was rich? Everything I've read says he arrived to America with a couple grand.
  - JaimeThompson 4y ago
    Assuming this is correct he had money from someplace. https://www.investopedia.com.cach3.com/university/elon-musk-biography/elon-musk-early-life-and-education.asp.html https://www.investopedia.com.cach3.com/university/elon-musk-... "After two years at Queen's University, Musk transferred to the University of Pennsylvania. He took on two majors, but his time there wasn’t all work and no play. With a fellow student, he bought a 10-bedroom fraternity house, which they used as an ad hoc nightclub."
  - tough 4y ago
    https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/elon-musk-millionaire-siblings-000954891.html https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/elon-musk-millionaire-sibl...
    - lupire 4y ago
      That says his father claimed to be rich on the past, and the Musk children made about $100M each from selling zip2 which they founded.