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This is exactly the type of comment I was originally writing about, where there is no respect for other people's right to form their own conclusion.

Terretta 5y ago
there is no respect for other people's right to form their own conclusion You have a right to be treated with respect, your conclusions do not. You have a right to form “your own” conclusion, no matter how hubristic. You do not have a right to expect others respect your own conclusion. E.g, if your conclusion tracks propaganda verbatim, interlocutors have their own right to call that out. Respect for conclusions based on regard for the reasoner’s “believability” is earned and can be lost. People can respect your right to be dead wrong, while still trying to help you be less so. The comment dismissing your conclusions wasn’t helpful, but was within both your and their rights.
- user3939382 5y ago
  “You’re repeating bullshit propaganda” is a highly disrespectful way to disagree with someone. It implies that you don’t merely disagree, but that the reason you disagree is because the other person is either engaging in bad faith or otherwise lacks the intelligence to realize they’ve been “tricked” into their beliefs. My concerns about the US relationship to and other circumstances surrounding this conflict are legitimate, not “bullshit propaganda”. In some sense you have the “right” to be as rude, unproductive, and disrespectful as the moderators or regulators of whatever medium you’re on will allow, I’m commenting on the rights we should bestow on people we’re communicating with, especially when we disagree.
  - tigershark 5y ago
    It’s simply stating a fact. Your comment reflected exactly the Russian propaganda. I don’t see why you would get offended if I say something that it’s demonstrably true. It’s a very good thing to point this out so someone that is not as informed will not believe Putin lies. For me it’s actually a mission to stop the spread of Russian propaganda.

Terretta 5y ago

there is no respect for other people's right to form their own conclusion You have a right to be treated with respect, your conclusions do not. You have a right to form “your own” conclusion, no matter how hubristic. You do not have a right to expect others respect your own conclusion. E.g, if your conclusion tracks propaganda verbatim, interlocutors have their own right to call that out. Respect for conclusions based on regard for the reasoner’s “believability” is earned and can be lost. People can respect your right to be dead wrong, while still trying to help you be less so. The comment dismissing your conclusions wasn’t helpful, but was within both your and their rights.

user3939382 5y ago
“You’re repeating bullshit propaganda” is a highly disrespectful way to disagree with someone. It implies that you don’t merely disagree, but that the reason you disagree is because the other person is either engaging in bad faith or otherwise lacks the intelligence to realize they’ve been “tricked” into their beliefs. My concerns about the US relationship to and other circumstances surrounding this conflict are legitimate, not “bullshit propaganda”. In some sense you have the “right” to be as rude, unproductive, and disrespectful as the moderators or regulators of whatever medium you’re on will allow, I’m commenting on the rights we should bestow on people we’re communicating with, especially when we disagree.
- tigershark 5y ago
  It’s simply stating a fact. Your comment reflected exactly the Russian propaganda. I don’t see why you would get offended if I say something that it’s demonstrably true. It’s a very good thing to point this out so someone that is not as informed will not believe Putin lies. For me it’s actually a mission to stop the spread of Russian propaganda.