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>You can't speedrun a career, and bootcamps sell a lie that you can. Not a bootcamper but I think this isn't true. If you put in the effort and you're moderate
by carlmr 5y ago
>You can't speedrun a career, and bootcamps sell a lie that you can.
Not a bootcamper but I think this isn't true. If you put in the effort and you're moderately intelligent you can speedrun pretty much any career in terms of knowledge.
However I do think there's a negative selection bias in the people that end up doing the bootcamps. They're not the self taught people that can teach themselves x in a few weeks. These people don't go to bootcamps, because they already taught themselves x and don't see the purpose in doing a bootcamp for a lot of money that teaches them x and doesn't give them a useful certificate.
The main benefit I see in the classical university track is that you gain more breadth of knowledge. And while you may not need most of it, it often helps in problem solving to know that some things "exist". Just so you can Google the details when you're faced with a similar problem.
The other benefit is of course the signaling value. Bootcamps don't have much of it.
- sirsinsalot 5y ago> In terms of knowledge Perhaps, but efficacy is knowledge combined with experience. Experience requires time, diverse challenges, mistakes and so on. Many bootcampers (and low-level developers generally) seem to think you can jump ahead to being senior/lead without actually gaining the experience, making the mistakes and learning the lessons first-hand. Sadly, there's plenty of crap low-level companies that will hire them too.
- carlmr 5y agoOh, ok, I thought you were talking about the knowledge part, because most university students come without useful experience, too. But no, obviously nobody should be in a lead position directly after college or bootcamp, except maybe if they had a lot of experience prior and this was only some qualification "on top".