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SGX is used by Signal’s server[0] to allow an open source trust-Intel / trust-their-hardware, but no one else based private contact discovery. [0] https://sign

SGX is used by Signal’s server[0] to allow an open source trust-Intel / trust-their-hardware, but no one else based private contact discovery. [0] https://signal.org/blog/private-contact-discovery/ https://signal.org/blog/private-contact-discovery/

inter_netuser 5y ago
AKA: "share your contacts with the NSA only"
- bawolff 5y ago
  Even if you dont believe in sgx, the nsa would still have to be in signal's servers somehow, in which case you are probably screwed anyways
  - ohthehugemanate 5y ago
    Edward Snowden is a public supporter and user of Signal. He's my canary in the coal mine. The moment the US three letter agencies get access to the data on Signal's servers, Snowden's dead. I feel comfortable in the resilience of their architecture as long as he's alive.
    - mhoad 5y ago
      This is an entire movie script you’ve made up in your mind. That isn’t how any of it works .
    - yosefk 5y ago
      Isn't Snowden alive because the US decided not to kill him? Doesn't sound like killing him is that hard
      - mhoad 5y ago
        Nobody is coming to kill him. The scenario as a whole makes no sense when you think about it with even the most gentle level of scrutiny. His only danger at this point is jail.
        bawolff 5y ago
        Yeah, even if you believe the usa is full on evil, extrajudicially murdering someone who was granted asylum in russia makes very little sense from a political perspective given america's position in the world.
    - 14u2c 5y ago
      Do you think his location is some great mystery? The actual reason he is not dead is because there is no political will to conduct an operation on Russia soil to murder him.
  - inter_netuser 5y ago
    why anyways? don't they say the chat is end to end encrypted?
traspler 5y ago
The crypto coin they include a wallet for, MobileCoin, is also based around SGX afaik.
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upofadown 5y ago
So there is that 2017 blog post that said they were thinking of doing something with SGX... Have they mentioned anything else about it after that?

inter_netuser 5y ago

AKA: "share your contacts with the NSA only"

bawolff 5y ago
Even if you dont believe in sgx, the nsa would still have to be in signal's servers somehow, in which case you are probably screwed anyways
- ohthehugemanate 5y ago
  Edward Snowden is a public supporter and user of Signal. He's my canary in the coal mine. The moment the US three letter agencies get access to the data on Signal's servers, Snowden's dead. I feel comfortable in the resilience of their architecture as long as he's alive.
  - mhoad 5y ago
    This is an entire movie script you’ve made up in your mind. That isn’t how any of it works .
  - yosefk 5y ago
    Isn't Snowden alive because the US decided not to kill him? Doesn't sound like killing him is that hard
    - mhoad 5y ago
      Nobody is coming to kill him. The scenario as a whole makes no sense when you think about it with even the most gentle level of scrutiny. His only danger at this point is jail.
      - bawolff 5y ago
        Yeah, even if you believe the usa is full on evil, extrajudicially murdering someone who was granted asylum in russia makes very little sense from a political perspective given america's position in the world.
  - 14u2c 5y ago
    Do you think his location is some great mystery? The actual reason he is not dead is because there is no political will to conduct an operation on Russia soil to murder him.
- inter_netuser 5y ago
  why anyways? don't they say the chat is end to end encrypted?

traspler 5y ago

The crypto coin they include a wallet for, MobileCoin, is also based around SGX afaik.

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upofadown 5y ago

So there is that 2017 blog post that said they were thinking of doing something with SGX... Have they mentioned anything else about it after that?