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> Writers, researchers, artists, architects, musicians, composers, filmmakers, actors, podcasters, even a lot of software developers Plenty of those same peopl

> Writers, researchers, artists, architects, musicians, composers, filmmakers, actors, podcasters, even a lot of software developers Plenty of those same people are fed up with copyright law in the US too. There are people releasing their works under more permissive licenses, publishing directly to torrent sites, etc. The fact is that most of the time copyright enforcement doesn't do a damn thing for the creators anyway. They rarely keep the copyright of what they produce. It does however often hinder their ability to work on things they'd like to, and it opens them up to legal risks from others who might claim their works are too close to their own. There's a very real chilling effect where creators may never even publish works out of fear that they'll be dragged into court against a team of industry lawyers. Our excessive copyright and patent system actually hinders more than it encourages new works.

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  > Rule of thumb, never start a sentence with "There are people", it's very vague and almost meaningless. Always refer to specific groups of people. This from the person who claims the supporters of our current copyright system are by necessity "Writers, researchers, artists, architects, musicians, composers, filmmakers, actors, podcasters, even a lot of software developers" Not a terribly specific list there either, but examples of folks fed up with system abound and I'm prepared to offer some to get you started: musicians: https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna7287785 https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna7287785 https://www.huffpost.com/entry/lady-gaga-jack-white-norah-jones-musicians-piracy_n_1258319 https://www.huffpost.com/entry/lady-gaga-jack-white-norah-jo... https://news.slashdot.org/story/09/05/16/0257212/danger-mouse-releases-blank-cd-r-to-spite-emi https://news.slashdot.org/story/09/05/16/0257212/danger-mous... see also : every artist that defends the use of samples in their works Writers: http://jakonrath.blogspot.com/2010/05/piracy-again.html http://jakonrath.blogspot.com/2010/05/piracy-again.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cory_Doctorow https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cory_Doctorow https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_S._Raymond https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_S._Raymond https://www.brandonsanderson.com/warbreaker-rights-explanation/ https://www.brandonsanderson.com/warbreaker-rights-explanati... filmmakers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nina_Paley https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nina_Paley Luke Thompson (Decay 2012) Michela Ledwidge (sanctuary 2005) Programmers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Eldred https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Eldred https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hal_Abelson https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hal_Abelson See also: huge swaths of the FOSS movement Podcasters: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/open-minds-from-creative-commons/id1554356942 https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/open-minds-from-creati... There are few people who would say we should abolish copyright entirely, I wouldn't myself, but our current system is broken and creative people in all areas are starting to see that and find workarounds and hope for changes. > My point is that basically all the lobbying that I've seen representing those groups has been in favor of the copyright system Those lobbyists aren't representing the artists they are representing the corporations who own the copyrights to the artists' work. Yes, the vast majority of works are still published traditionally under the typical licensees, but the system is designed to keep people doing so under the threat of lawsuits. Having the MPA or the RIAA and their teams of lawyers at your back can give you freedom to create in an environment where it's increasingly risky because of those same organizations and people are just starting to become wise to that.

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> Rule of thumb, never start a sentence with "There are people", it's very vague and almost meaningless. Always refer to specific groups of people. This from the person who claims the supporters of our current copyright system are by necessity "Writers, researchers, artists, architects, musicians, composers, filmmakers, actors, podcasters, even a lot of software developers" Not a terribly specific list there either, but examples of folks fed up with system abound and I'm prepared to offer some to get you started: musicians: https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna7287785 https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna7287785 https://www.huffpost.com/entry/lady-gaga-jack-white-norah-jones-musicians-piracy_n_1258319 https://www.huffpost.com/entry/lady-gaga-jack-white-norah-jo... https://news.slashdot.org/story/09/05/16/0257212/danger-mouse-releases-blank-cd-r-to-spite-emi https://news.slashdot.org/story/09/05/16/0257212/danger-mous... see also : every artist that defends the use of samples in their works Writers: http://jakonrath.blogspot.com/2010/05/piracy-again.html http://jakonrath.blogspot.com/2010/05/piracy-again.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cory_Doctorow https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cory_Doctorow https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_S._Raymond https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_S._Raymond https://www.brandonsanderson.com/warbreaker-rights-explanation/ https://www.brandonsanderson.com/warbreaker-rights-explanati... filmmakers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nina_Paley https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nina_Paley Luke Thompson (Decay 2012) Michela Ledwidge (sanctuary 2005) Programmers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Eldred https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Eldred https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hal_Abelson https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hal_Abelson See also: huge swaths of the FOSS movement Podcasters: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/open-minds-from-creative-commons/id1554356942 https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/open-minds-from-creati... There are few people who would say we should abolish copyright entirely, I wouldn't myself, but our current system is broken and creative people in all areas are starting to see that and find workarounds and hope for changes. > My point is that basically all the lobbying that I've seen representing those groups has been in favor of the copyright system Those lobbyists aren't representing the artists they are representing the corporations who own the copyrights to the artists' work. Yes, the vast majority of works are still published traditionally under the typical licensees, but the system is designed to keep people doing so under the threat of lawsuits. Having the MPA or the RIAA and their teams of lawyers at your back can give you freedom to create in an environment where it's increasingly risky because of those same organizations and people are just starting to become wise to that.