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Look this isn't the answer you want but no amount of meat is ethical. A living being has to die and there's no way to justify that that doesn't lean into some k

Look this isn't the answer you want but no amount of meat is ethical. A living being has to die and there's no way to justify that that doesn't lean into some kind of cop out supremacist argument. Nutritionally, it's been shown again and again that plant based diets are healthier than meat eating diets. And not just that, but there is actual science to back this up. Compare the science for plant based diets (https://www.reddit.com/r/vegan/wiki/veganscience/ https://www.reddit.com/r/vegan/wiki/veganscience/) to the basically non-existent studies regarding human carnivore diets. I'd highly recommend having a start here for some general resources: https://www.reddit.com/r/vegan/wiki/index/ https://www.reddit.com/r/vegan/wiki/index/ It's better for yourself, the planet, and the animals to be open to going down this route. Don't buy into the weird unscientific propoganda from the carnivore club, look at the research, and question why you're concerned about the ethics of meat eating to begin with and maybe explore that to the fullest extent.

meatythrowaway 4y ago
I'm not contesting that plant based diets are very healthy, it's what I mostly eat now. This is something I'm discussing with a doctor because we are out of other options, think an extreme elimination diet. I am mostly interested in how I can offset the climate impact with less unethical meat sources, carbon capture, other lifestyle changes etc. FWIW most people don't agree with you on the ethics of killing animals for food. I prefer to minimize suffering where necessary but do not see a problem if that is what a sentient being needs to live. As I said in my post though I hope lab grown meat soon makes killing any animals for food unnecessary.
cercatrova 4y ago
> Look this isn't the answer you want but no amount of meat is ethical. A living being has to die and there's no way to justify that that doesn't lean into some kind of cop out supremacist argument. This is contingent on your specific version of ethics, which not everyone (I'd argue most people) shares. Otherwise, barring those who have only meat to survive such as in the arctic, everyone would be vegan. That being said, I'd be wary of an all-meat diet, OP should carefully evaluate whether they're getting all their nutrients from only meat, and not develop other issues like rhabdomyolysis.

meatythrowaway 4y ago

I'm not contesting that plant based diets are very healthy, it's what I mostly eat now. This is something I'm discussing with a doctor because we are out of other options, think an extreme elimination diet. I am mostly interested in how I can offset the climate impact with less unethical meat sources, carbon capture, other lifestyle changes etc. FWIW most people don't agree with you on the ethics of killing animals for food. I prefer to minimize suffering where necessary but do not see a problem if that is what a sentient being needs to live. As I said in my post though I hope lab grown meat soon makes killing any animals for food unnecessary.

cercatrova 4y ago

> Look this isn't the answer you want but no amount of meat is ethical. A living being has to die and there's no way to justify that that doesn't lean into some kind of cop out supremacist argument. This is contingent on your specific version of ethics, which not everyone (I'd argue most people) shares. Otherwise, barring those who have only meat to survive such as in the arctic, everyone would be vegan. That being said, I'd be wary of an all-meat diet, OP should carefully evaluate whether they're getting all their nutrients from only meat, and not develop other issues like rhabdomyolysis.