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"Mockery" i.e. not censor people who say things you don't like.

avs733 5y ago
It’s a completely ridiculous narrative to think that musk is interested in anyones free speech but his own. We should all be more aware of when the narratives billionaires pitch about themselves become perceived to be objective reality.
- martyvis 5y ago
  If Elon was really only concerned by his own free speech he could easily using the small change in his pocket to create elonmusksays.com, have 10 people run it, and his daily quips and insights would be there for all to see and presumably quoted anywhere and everywhere. Elon always has bigger plans and ability to execute on them then people seem to acknowledge.
- argiopetech 5y ago
  While I don't dispute that Elon is first in Elon's mind, I (perhaps in ignorance) have no reason to believe that he wouldn't take a principled stance and apply the standard he wants for himself to all. That's certainly what he's claimed. I don't find the assertion that billionaires inherently lack integrity a compelling argument. In the spirit of honest inquiry, do you know of any reason specific to Elon that I should not take him at his word?
  - avs733 5y ago
    It’s important to note I didn’t say anything about his integrity. There’s a pretty significant area of scholarly research in business and entrepreneurship that criticizes “mythicization” of successful individuals. What those scholars argue, basically, is that media as well as business researchers take the words of successful people as inherently true and important. The result in, say research on entrepreneurs, is that what successful entrepreneurs think is meaningful is reported as de facto true and important. The critique is not of them saying it - it’s of others accepting it as valid based on the heuristic that successful people must be right. It’s a critique of the resulting research for not being objectively defensible, but instead just reinforcing societal norms as reality. In my comment, my criticism isn’t of musk it’s of others. Believe me, musk, you, me, everyone tells stories about our selves and our beliefs from our own perspectives. It’s how other evaluate and use those stories as objective rather than subjective that can be problematic. C.f,, the other comment replies I got
  - dm319 5y ago
    Because it takes a particular kind of person to become that rich and wealthy. When the whole Epstein scandle unraveled, it was eye-opening to me that all these people intent on being wealthy, powerful and influential, were also morally dubious. Elon has clearly sought wealth and power throughout his life. Twitter is the most influential social network on the planet - maybe he thinks that he could transition from the richest person in the world, to the most powerful.
- WalterBright 5y ago
  Why is it completely ridiculous?

It’s a completely ridiculous narrative to think that musk is interested in anyones free speech but his own. We should all be more aware of when the narratives billionaires pitch about themselves become perceived to be objective reality.

martyvis 5y ago
If Elon was really only concerned by his own free speech he could easily using the small change in his pocket to create elonmusksays.com, have 10 people run it, and his daily quips and insights would be there for all to see and presumably quoted anywhere and everywhere. Elon always has bigger plans and ability to execute on them then people seem to acknowledge.
argiopetech 5y ago
While I don't dispute that Elon is first in Elon's mind, I (perhaps in ignorance) have no reason to believe that he wouldn't take a principled stance and apply the standard he wants for himself to all. That's certainly what he's claimed. I don't find the assertion that billionaires inherently lack integrity a compelling argument. In the spirit of honest inquiry, do you know of any reason specific to Elon that I should not take him at his word?
- avs733 5y ago
  It’s important to note I didn’t say anything about his integrity. There’s a pretty significant area of scholarly research in business and entrepreneurship that criticizes “mythicization” of successful individuals. What those scholars argue, basically, is that media as well as business researchers take the words of successful people as inherently true and important. The result in, say research on entrepreneurs, is that what successful entrepreneurs think is meaningful is reported as de facto true and important. The critique is not of them saying it - it’s of others accepting it as valid based on the heuristic that successful people must be right. It’s a critique of the resulting research for not being objectively defensible, but instead just reinforcing societal norms as reality. In my comment, my criticism isn’t of musk it’s of others. Believe me, musk, you, me, everyone tells stories about our selves and our beliefs from our own perspectives. It’s how other evaluate and use those stories as objective rather than subjective that can be problematic. C.f,, the other comment replies I got
- dm319 5y ago
  Because it takes a particular kind of person to become that rich and wealthy. When the whole Epstein scandle unraveled, it was eye-opening to me that all these people intent on being wealthy, powerful and influential, were also morally dubious. Elon has clearly sought wealth and power throughout his life. Twitter is the most influential social network on the planet - maybe he thinks that he could transition from the richest person in the world, to the most powerful.
WalterBright 5y ago
Why is it completely ridiculous?