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Extradition treaties work in more than just the direction of the US, and serve a functional purpose, for the same reason that foreign nationals who commit crime

by zeruch 5y ago

Extradition treaties work in more than just the direction of the US, and serve a functional purpose, for the same reason that foreign nationals who commit crimes in a jurisdiction CAN be adjudicated in that jurisdiction AND/or in their home jurisdiction.

swarnie 5y ago
I'm not convinced. Historically you've been able to pick up British citizens at will but nothing much is forthcoming in return. Still waiting on Anna Sacoolas whenever you get around to it.
- zeruch 5y ago
  "I'm not convinced" I'm happy for you. When I was at Uni, the previous extradition agreement between the US and UK was lopsided but still the UK was able to get US citizens extradited under sufficient evidence. As far as I know, when the agreement was re-negotiated in the early 2000s little changed, and looks like there is at least some evidence (at least from the 2003-2012 period) to confirm this from the UK home office: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/details_of_numbers_of_us_citizen https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/details_of_numbers_of... As far as the Sacoolas case, I didn't realize I was on the hook for sending her back to the UK to spend some time in the dock.
paulpauper 5y ago
you think Bahamas, Turkey, Spain cares that much? I can see maybe Canada complying
- uoaei 5y ago
  Bahamas and Spain, definitely. Turkey, probably, though maybe not.
- zeruch 5y ago
  It always depends on several factors, including how much of a trade relationship runs between the two, or regional defence agreements (among other things). And while IANAL, I suspect given the relationships we have, the Bahamas almost certainly would, Turkey would be contingent, and Spain would likely be the most resistant for non-economic (capital crimes) as EU states tend to be, but for economic ones...almost certainly extradite someone back to US remand (as has happened before).

by zeruch 5y ago

swarnie 5y ago

I'm not convinced. Historically you've been able to pick up British citizens at will but nothing much is forthcoming in return. Still waiting on Anna Sacoolas whenever you get around to it.

zeruch 5y ago
"I'm not convinced" I'm happy for you. When I was at Uni, the previous extradition agreement between the US and UK was lopsided but still the UK was able to get US citizens extradited under sufficient evidence. As far as I know, when the agreement was re-negotiated in the early 2000s little changed, and looks like there is at least some evidence (at least from the 2003-2012 period) to confirm this from the UK home office: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/details_of_numbers_of_us_citizen https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/details_of_numbers_of... As far as the Sacoolas case, I didn't realize I was on the hook for sending her back to the UK to spend some time in the dock.

paulpauper 5y ago

you think Bahamas, Turkey, Spain cares that much? I can see maybe Canada complying

uoaei 5y ago
Bahamas and Spain, definitely. Turkey, probably, though maybe not.
zeruch 5y ago
It always depends on several factors, including how much of a trade relationship runs between the two, or regional defence agreements (among other things). And while IANAL, I suspect given the relationships we have, the Bahamas almost certainly would, Turkey would be contingent, and Spain would likely be the most resistant for non-economic (capital crimes) as EU states tend to be, but for economic ones...almost certainly extradite someone back to US remand (as has happened before).