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> The "old internet" was predominantly american ( 90%+ ) and we didn't just want to protect free speech from conservatives attacking porn, but from everyone ( s

> The "old internet" was predominantly american ( 90%+ ) and we didn't just want to protect free speech from conservatives attacking porn, but from everyone ( soccer moms, woke leftist, europeans, ADL, canadians, etc ). No one was concerned with woke leftists in the 90s. No one. "Woke" wasn't a term, and after the fall of the Soviet Union, no one was worried about the corroding influence of leftists, or cultural marxism, or any of the bogeymen that resurfaced over the past decade.

qiskit 4y ago
> No one was concerned with woke leftists in the 90s. No one. "Woke" wasn't a term I know woke wasn't a term. I grew up in the 90s. I just put it in there to emphasize "everyone". Thought people would be butthurt about me adding canadians/europeans, not woke leftist. But the precursors of modern "woke left" certainly existed in the 90s even though they didn't gain the power they did after the 2007 financial crisis.
- neilpointer 4y ago
  Oh wow I had no idea the Woke Leftists ran the banks and private equity firms. Wild.
  - qiskit 4y ago
    - neilpointer 4y ago
      ah yes, the well-known leftists of the CIA, FBI, and Army. They were playing the long-game murdering all those leftist governments of Central and South America, I guess. Maybe just give a definition of 'woke'?
      - specto 4y ago
        Been seeing these conspiracy "theories" on HN lately, it's interesting to say the least.
      - qiskit 4y ago
        > They were playing the long-game murdering all those leftist governments of Central and South America, I guess. They were murdering right wing iraqis too. Also, there is a difference between left and woke leftists. Woke leftists hate leftists just as much as they hate everyone else. > Maybe just give a definition of 'woke'? What you believe in obviously. The CIA has been running woke ads and celebrating wokeism on their youtube channel and everywhere. Not to mention the FBI, Military, etc. Not sure why you are denying it when they've openly embraced wokeism.
        monocasa 4y ago
        They work against anyone they think are against American hegemony. There are some right wingers in that, but they consider all left wingers to be enemies.
      - memish 4y ago
        There has been a strange inversion. Some people who used to be anti-authority are now pro-authority and vice versa. https://i.imgur.com/2BUaFjn.jpg https://i.imgur.com/2BUaFjn.jpg
psyc 4y ago
In the 90s, we had “PC.” In retrospect, it was a very mild strain of what we have now.
memish 4y ago
Yes, but that's where it started becoming noticeable. Too much language was being changed in a non-evolutionary way. That's why Bill Maher named his show Politically Incorrect and George Carlin roasted the euphemism treadmill. They were pointing out the excesses.
AussieWog93 4y ago
I don't know about the 90s specifically (I was 6 when the new millennium started!), but people were definitely talking about "politicial correctness gone mad" and the "war on Christmas" in the early 00s. Here's a comedy sketch from '05 that's making fun of many of the same "woke" concepts we have now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9u7Z5cNfc9w https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9u7Z5cNfc9w
chasd00 4y ago
The 1994 movie PCU lampooned the “wokeness” of the 90s. It was just called political correctness then.

qiskit 4y ago

> No one was concerned with woke leftists in the 90s. No one. "Woke" wasn't a term I know woke wasn't a term. I grew up in the 90s. I just put it in there to emphasize "everyone". Thought people would be butthurt about me adding canadians/europeans, not woke leftist. But the precursors of modern "woke left" certainly existed in the 90s even though they didn't gain the power they did after the 2007 financial crisis.

neilpointer 4y ago
Oh wow I had no idea the Woke Leftists ran the banks and private equity firms. Wild.
- qiskit 4y ago
  - neilpointer 4y ago
    ah yes, the well-known leftists of the CIA, FBI, and Army. They were playing the long-game murdering all those leftist governments of Central and South America, I guess. Maybe just give a definition of 'woke'?
    - specto 4y ago
      Been seeing these conspiracy "theories" on HN lately, it's interesting to say the least.
    - qiskit 4y ago
      > They were playing the long-game murdering all those leftist governments of Central and South America, I guess. They were murdering right wing iraqis too. Also, there is a difference between left and woke leftists. Woke leftists hate leftists just as much as they hate everyone else. > Maybe just give a definition of 'woke'? What you believe in obviously. The CIA has been running woke ads and celebrating wokeism on their youtube channel and everywhere. Not to mention the FBI, Military, etc. Not sure why you are denying it when they've openly embraced wokeism.
      - monocasa 4y ago
        They work against anyone they think are against American hegemony. There are some right wingers in that, but they consider all left wingers to be enemies.
    - memish 4y ago
      There has been a strange inversion. Some people who used to be anti-authority are now pro-authority and vice versa. https://i.imgur.com/2BUaFjn.jpg https://i.imgur.com/2BUaFjn.jpg

psyc 4y ago

In the 90s, we had “PC.” In retrospect, it was a very mild strain of what we have now.

memish 4y ago

Yes, but that's where it started becoming noticeable. Too much language was being changed in a non-evolutionary way. That's why Bill Maher named his show Politically Incorrect and George Carlin roasted the euphemism treadmill. They were pointing out the excesses.

AussieWog93 4y ago

I don't know about the 90s specifically (I was 6 when the new millennium started!), but people were definitely talking about "politicial correctness gone mad" and the "war on Christmas" in the early 00s. Here's a comedy sketch from '05 that's making fun of many of the same "woke" concepts we have now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9u7Z5cNfc9w https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9u7Z5cNfc9w

chasd00 4y ago

The 1994 movie PCU lampooned the “wokeness” of the 90s. It was just called political correctness then.