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Not gonna lie, I think the jvm integration is a big win for clojure as a language. The fact that you can pull in and interop with established jvm tools and lib

Not gonna lie, I think the jvm integration is a big win for clojure as a language. The fact that you can pull in and interop with established jvm tools and libraries makes using a niche language like clojure a possibility for professional development. C libraries are wonderful tools when you need a low-level library to run hot, but if you need, I don't know, a database adapter or a queueing library and you don't want to write one, I'd much prefer pulling something out of maven than trying to integrate a C library. There's just a lot of infrastructure the jvm gives you pretty easily. If you're just messing around with fun side projects, there's nothing wrong with using something you enjoy for no other reason than your own personal enjoyment.

pkulak 4y ago
> If you're just messing around with fun side projects, there's nothing wrong with using something you enjoy for no other reason than your own personal enjoyment. That was my thought too. If it's a side project, I guess you should just always use Python because you will never need anything else. But I already kinda know Python and it doesn't interest me much, so I write my side projects in the flavor of the day that has my fancy at the moment.
- petre 4y ago
  Python has lots of third party library support. You can basically do pretty much anything. I had to write some proof of concept code that talked ISO-TP on the CAN bus and guess which language other than C had libraries for CAN and ISO-TP? Python. Fortunately we found a serial to CAN gateway and I was able to do it in Ruby over the serial port. Soon we'll have to rewrite part of it in C/C++ on some embedded board, probably ESP32 because it has CAN and WiFi built in. But I think it's perfectly doable in micropython as well. ESP32 CAN bus support for micropython is currently being worked on.

pkulak 4y ago

> If you're just messing around with fun side projects, there's nothing wrong with using something you enjoy for no other reason than your own personal enjoyment. That was my thought too. If it's a side project, I guess you should just always use Python because you will never need anything else. But I already kinda know Python and it doesn't interest me much, so I write my side projects in the flavor of the day that has my fancy at the moment.

petre 4y ago
Python has lots of third party library support. You can basically do pretty much anything. I had to write some proof of concept code that talked ISO-TP on the CAN bus and guess which language other than C had libraries for CAN and ISO-TP? Python. Fortunately we found a serial to CAN gateway and I was able to do it in Ruby over the serial port. Soon we'll have to rewrite part of it in C/C++ on some embedded board, probably ESP32 because it has CAN and WiFi built in. But I think it's perfectly doable in micropython as well. ESP32 CAN bus support for micropython is currently being worked on.