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> What sort of blows my mind is especially those first two sources offer really clear eyed commentary on 'all of this,' but they are also dated - 1990's pub
by nonrandomstring 5y ago
> What sort of blows my mind is especially those first two sources
offer really clear eyed commentary on 'all of this,' but they are
also dated - 1990's publishing date. It's like you have to tap into
sometimes hokey "the information age" literature to get a clear read
on 2020's tech.
Yes that's weird isn't it. I don't believe in "suppression
conspiracies" but am amazed how often deeply prescient things are
passed over the first time around and must be dug up. For more
archaeology dig around Phil Agre's "Red Rock Eaters" and the old Whole
Earth where I first discovered Dana Meadows.
- dogman144 5y agoEvidence supported by links b/t diverse parties and/or similar conclusions without much of a shared background, defeated by the catch-all defense of Luddite accusations/general malaise, is what disconcerts me the most. A drugged out 1990 Nick Land, the MIT crew (Meadows, Wiener), the original computers (Lanier, Agre, cypherpunks), Mark Fisher and the Occupy area, etc. etc. all come to fairly similar conclusions or exist in very similar orbits, "other research" by the same entities was or is fairly influential, but this area - cybernetic, the Concern, "idk but something isn't great" just does not exist currently and that lack of anchoring really concerns me. All that's available is ex-Social Media/adtech CEOs going on podcast apology tours like that Social Dilemma doc. Really don't know what to think of it.