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A lot of people do crazy stuff with Paint... just imagine what they could do with good software

Etheryte 5y ago
While this is an easy idea to agree with, I don't think it holds up to scrutiny. Michelangelo made David with what are surely basic tools when compared to modern machining apparatuses. Yet he still created something for the ages. While advanced tools can definitely cut down the amount of time you spend on something, they don't necessarily make the outcome any better. A master can create a masterpiece even with just a chisel (or Paint).
- Vladimof 5y ago
  They probably could do a more beautiful art faster if they knew how to use modern tools. But I get your point. It's a bit like debating whether an axe is better then a chainsaw... I used both and I can tell you that an axe requires a lot more efforts....
- egypturnash 5y ago
  Art has been my job since about 2020. My experience is that, while I can certainly do lovely work with any way of making a mark and enough time, shitty tools will take a lot of time to get decent work, decent tools will take a sensible amount of time relative to how much people are willing to pay me, and power tools - once you've learnt how to use them properly - will let me work a lot faster for the same quality of work. Pushing single pixels in Paint is like writing assembly language for artists, except we don't even get the benefit of all that time spent coming back as blazingly fast execution. We just had to spend a lot more time than other tools could have let us take.
- xypage 5y ago
  I don't think that's a good comparison. Paint is to Photoshop as a crayola 64 pack of crayons is to a paint brush and palette. Yeah Michelangelo did crazy stuff with old tools but he'd still use the same thing today, he'd just be able to speed up the first part where he's just clearing away material by using a jackhammer or something but he'd still use a chisel at the end. He wouldn't have been able to do the roof of the Sistine Chapel with crayons, though.

While this is an easy idea to agree with, I don't think it holds up to scrutiny. Michelangelo made David with what are surely basic tools when compared to modern machining apparatuses. Yet he still created something for the ages. While advanced tools can definitely cut down the amount of time you spend on something, they don't necessarily make the outcome any better. A master can create a masterpiece even with just a chisel (or Paint).

Vladimof 5y ago
They probably could do a more beautiful art faster if they knew how to use modern tools. But I get your point. It's a bit like debating whether an axe is better then a chainsaw... I used both and I can tell you that an axe requires a lot more efforts....
egypturnash 5y ago
Art has been my job since about 2020. My experience is that, while I can certainly do lovely work with any way of making a mark and enough time, shitty tools will take a lot of time to get decent work, decent tools will take a sensible amount of time relative to how much people are willing to pay me, and power tools - once you've learnt how to use them properly - will let me work a lot faster for the same quality of work. Pushing single pixels in Paint is like writing assembly language for artists, except we don't even get the benefit of all that time spent coming back as blazingly fast execution. We just had to spend a lot more time than other tools could have let us take.
xypage 5y ago
I don't think that's a good comparison. Paint is to Photoshop as a crayola 64 pack of crayons is to a paint brush and palette. Yeah Michelangelo did crazy stuff with old tools but he'd still use the same thing today, he'd just be able to speed up the first part where he's just clearing away material by using a jackhammer or something but he'd still use a chisel at the end. He wouldn't have been able to do the roof of the Sistine Chapel with crayons, though.