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This is what happens when people don't understand group policy and are a little too paranoid. This is just a broken version of Windows 10 as far as I'm concerne

by alar44 5y ago

This is what happens when people don't understand group policy and are a little too paranoid. This is just a broken version of Windows 10 as far as I'm concerned. You will have far more problems with this than any "forced" Windows update people love to complain about.

aspenmayer 5y ago
It’s an educational release, and one that raises awareness about the issues of Microsoft collecting PII and other telemetry. Even if it’s provably broken in the ways you say, it still serves the stated goals of the creators in these ways.
- fckgw 5y ago
  It's a cracked version of Windows with updates disabled, there's nothing "educational" about it.
- dTal 5y ago
  That's not at all what they say. It's advertised as "a stable, non-intrusive yet fully functional build of Windows 10 to anyone that requires [it]" in which "great effort has been invested in maintaining the subsequent system’s stability, bug-free operation and user experience". The entire site screams "download this and use it in production". They have big friendly ISO download buttons front and center, with absolutely no disclaimer anywhere that it might be a terrible idea. If it truly is merely "educational", then this is highly irresponsible.
  - aspenmayer 5y ago
    It [being an education release of Win10] is exactly what they say. > AME is developed for educational purposes only, which emphasizes an effort to reverse engineer, disable or replace components of the Microsoft Windows 10 operating system. The goal is an endeavour to better understand and mitigate the collection of Personally identifiable information (PII), as has been clearly outlined by numerous outlets covering the topic, including comments by famed whistle-blower Edward Snowden. Another goal is to replace included proprietary Windows software, such as the Edge web-browser, with ethically verifiable alternatives using open-source licenses. https://wiki.ameliorated.info/doku.php?id=faq#legal_considerations https://wiki.ameliorated.info/doku.php?id=faq#legal_consider...
    - alar44 5y ago
      Yeah my cracked version of Logic is an educational release too, lmao
      - aspenmayer 5y ago
        DMCA literally has an exemption for reverse engineering for educational and interoperability purposes. This isn’t the pwn you think it is, lol
        duskwuff 5y ago
        Releasing a cracked version of an application is not covered under that exemption. I'm honestly flabbergasted to hear you suggest it might be.
        aspenmayer 5y ago
        duskwuff 5y ago
        There is literally a link titled "ISO Download" at the top of the web site. Claiming that "oh, that web site isn't actually offering the download, it's actually a torrent file hosted on a Telegram channel" is not the defense you think it is.
        aspenmayer 5y ago
        You literally can’t download any content from that site: neither ISOs nor torrents. You’re reaching.
        tuwtuwtuwtuw 5y ago
        5y ago
uuyi 5y ago
It'll probably still work better than some of the insane and dubious things my Citrix customers manage to do to windows in the name of stability and privacy...
JoeMamaAME 5y ago
Using group policy or registry edits does NOT fully remove Windows spyware or telemetry. Windows Ameliorated is different in this regard, as it actually gets rid of the spyware on an executable level, meaning the functionality of the spyware is not just disabled, but completely removed. Also, as a personal testimony, my whole family and I have been running AME as a daily driver for awhile now, and haven't run into any significant issues (funnily enough, I've had less issues with Windows Ameliorated than I have with Windows). From my experience it really is stable, and IMO even more stable than stock Windows. I ask that you actually try out a project before making claims about it.

by alar44 5y ago

aspenmayer 5y ago

It’s an educational release, and one that raises awareness about the issues of Microsoft collecting PII and other telemetry. Even if it’s provably broken in the ways you say, it still serves the stated goals of the creators in these ways.

fckgw 5y ago
It's a cracked version of Windows with updates disabled, there's nothing "educational" about it.
dTal 5y ago
That's not at all what they say. It's advertised as "a stable, non-intrusive yet fully functional build of Windows 10 to anyone that requires [it]" in which "great effort has been invested in maintaining the subsequent system’s stability, bug-free operation and user experience". The entire site screams "download this and use it in production". They have big friendly ISO download buttons front and center, with absolutely no disclaimer anywhere that it might be a terrible idea. If it truly is merely "educational", then this is highly irresponsible.
- aspenmayer 5y ago
  It [being an education release of Win10] is exactly what they say. > AME is developed for educational purposes only, which emphasizes an effort to reverse engineer, disable or replace components of the Microsoft Windows 10 operating system. The goal is an endeavour to better understand and mitigate the collection of Personally identifiable information (PII), as has been clearly outlined by numerous outlets covering the topic, including comments by famed whistle-blower Edward Snowden. Another goal is to replace included proprietary Windows software, such as the Edge web-browser, with ethically verifiable alternatives using open-source licenses. https://wiki.ameliorated.info/doku.php?id=faq#legal_considerations https://wiki.ameliorated.info/doku.php?id=faq#legal_consider...
  - alar44 5y ago
    Yeah my cracked version of Logic is an educational release too, lmao
    - aspenmayer 5y ago
      DMCA literally has an exemption for reverse engineering for educational and interoperability purposes. This isn’t the pwn you think it is, lol
      - duskwuff 5y ago
        Releasing a cracked version of an application is not covered under that exemption. I'm honestly flabbergasted to hear you suggest it might be.
        aspenmayer 5y ago
        duskwuff 5y ago
        There is literally a link titled "ISO Download" at the top of the web site. Claiming that "oh, that web site isn't actually offering the download, it's actually a torrent file hosted on a Telegram channel" is not the defense you think it is.
        aspenmayer 5y ago
        You literally can’t download any content from that site: neither ISOs nor torrents. You’re reaching.
        tuwtuwtuwtuw 5y ago
        5y ago

uuyi 5y ago

It'll probably still work better than some of the insane and dubious things my Citrix customers manage to do to windows in the name of stability and privacy...

JoeMamaAME 5y ago

Using group policy or registry edits does NOT fully remove Windows spyware or telemetry. Windows Ameliorated is different in this regard, as it actually gets rid of the spyware on an executable level, meaning the functionality of the spyware is not just disabled, but completely removed. Also, as a personal testimony, my whole family and I have been running AME as a daily driver for awhile now, and haven't run into any significant issues (funnily enough, I've had less issues with Windows Ameliorated than I have with Windows). From my experience it really is stable, and IMO even more stable than stock Windows. I ask that you actually try out a project before making claims about it.