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Why not? I could join the US military and fight alongside a communist, muslim, christian, nazi, etc. that wouldn't mean I was any of those things.
by snapcaster 5y ago
Why not? I could join the US military and fight alongside a communist, muslim, christian, nazi, etc. that wouldn't mean I was any of those things.
- giraffe_lady 5y agoNo but it does make you a soldier. That's the entire point here. We don't care what they thought of themselves, we care what they did.
- snapcaster 5y ago>No but it does make you a soldier So you're abandoning the claim in your comment I responded to and agreeing with me?
- giraffe_lady 5y agoI'm saying that what they did was nazi shit, in alignment with nazi values, towards nazi goals, so I feel good about calling them nazis. Regardless of whether they would have called themselves nazis. Why do you care so much about party membership? Why the project of establishing a high barrier and technical definition for what a nazi is?
- sidewndr46 5y agoMy question to that would be: is a pacifist in the trenches of Vietnam on the side of the Americans equally culpable as the infantry soldier with a rifle? Both carryout essential tasks, both are likely conscripts. The only different is 1 has a rifle and didn't object to compulsory service. The other one made an objection but still performs an essential service.
- giraffe_lady 5y agoI'm not trying to establish a generalizable moral calculus of culpability though. Just refuting the idea that soldiers fighting for nazi germany were somehow not nazis if they weren't registered party members.