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> Stugna-P, Javelin, and NLAW all kinda have the same properties. They're large, bulky, and filled with a LOT of explosives. This is a very common mis-concepti

> Stugna-P, Javelin, and NLAW all kinda have the same properties. They're large, bulky, and filled with a LOT of explosives. This is a very common mis-conception. These weapons don't have a lot of explosive. They instead rely on very precise application of a little explosive, through an EFP design. If you see a Javelin or NLAW hit an inert target, it's very modest. If you see a big explosion in a demo it's because they've filled it with fuel!

dragontamer 5y ago
The AT4 is 15 lbs weapon. Javelin is a 50 lbs weapon. Sure, some of that weight is computer and night-vision. But most of that weight difference is explosives (I assume the 2nd tandem charge in particular). NLAW is 28lbs, somewhere in-between. ------ Tandem charges (dual-explosives: first explosion disables reactive armor, second explosion penetrates the tank) basically means carrying 2x warheads with every warhead... its weight and heavy. Each of those Javelin explosions you see is __TWO__ explosions, timed carefully to defeat Russian reactive armor. Its a sophisticated weapon for sure, but you still have to physically carry all those extra explosives somewhere.
- chrisseaton 5y ago
  > Javelin is a 50 lbs weapon. Sure, some of that weight is computer and night-vision. But most of that weight difference is explosives (I assume the 2nd tandem charge in particular). No most of it is the motor. The entire warhead of Javelin weight just 8.4 kg. That's the entire warhead - not just the explosive. An EFP contains a lot of 'inert' metal that gets formed into a projectile. (Can we not use pounds in a technical military discussion, lol.)
  - dragontamer 5y ago
    > The entire warhead of Javelin weight just 8.4 kg. That's the entire warhead - not just the explosive. And the entire AT4 weapon (including the sling, the barrel, warhead... everything) is 6.7kg. Javelin is a big boy. Reaching the limits of what people can carry effectively, especially if you need a 2nd or 3rd shot to do your job. EDIT: I think RPG7 is like 3kg for the rocket AND explosives, 8.5kg for the entire weapon. EDIT2: So yeah, you can carry 3x AT4 for the same weight as 1x Javelin.
  - agapon 5y ago
    > The entire warhead of Javelin weight just 8.4 kg. That's the entire warhead - not just the explosive. "just"

dragontamer 5y ago

The AT4 is 15 lbs weapon. Javelin is a 50 lbs weapon. Sure, some of that weight is computer and night-vision. But most of that weight difference is explosives (I assume the 2nd tandem charge in particular). NLAW is 28lbs, somewhere in-between. ------ Tandem charges (dual-explosives: first explosion disables reactive armor, second explosion penetrates the tank) basically means carrying 2x warheads with every warhead... its weight and heavy. Each of those Javelin explosions you see is __TWO__ explosions, timed carefully to defeat Russian reactive armor. Its a sophisticated weapon for sure, but you still have to physically carry all those extra explosives somewhere.

chrisseaton 5y ago
> Javelin is a 50 lbs weapon. Sure, some of that weight is computer and night-vision. But most of that weight difference is explosives (I assume the 2nd tandem charge in particular). No most of it is the motor. The entire warhead of Javelin weight just 8.4 kg. That's the entire warhead - not just the explosive. An EFP contains a lot of 'inert' metal that gets formed into a projectile. (Can we not use pounds in a technical military discussion, lol.)
- dragontamer 5y ago
  > The entire warhead of Javelin weight just 8.4 kg. That's the entire warhead - not just the explosive. And the entire AT4 weapon (including the sling, the barrel, warhead... everything) is 6.7kg. Javelin is a big boy. Reaching the limits of what people can carry effectively, especially if you need a 2nd or 3rd shot to do your job. EDIT: I think RPG7 is like 3kg for the rocket AND explosives, 8.5kg for the entire weapon. EDIT2: So yeah, you can carry 3x AT4 for the same weight as 1x Javelin.
- agapon 5y ago
  > The entire warhead of Javelin weight just 8.4 kg. That's the entire warhead - not just the explosive. "just"