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> Like, why are groups of cyclists going in rows of two or three in a narrow service road (40 to 50 mph speed limit). On a road with one lane in each direction

> Like, why are groups of cyclists going in rows of two or three in a narrow service road (40 to 50 mph speed limit). On a road with one lane in each direction? So that passing vehicles aren’t facing oncoming traffic for as long. If you’re giving them enough space when passing, you’re probably over the line anyway; would you rather be there for twice or three times as long if they were riding single-file?

nobodyandproud 5y ago
If they’re going single file, then they have a paved space past the solid lane border. What’s happening is weekend cyclists having a conversation. Why is this okay?
- ryukafalz 5y ago
  Setting aside the fact that the gutter is often full of uncleared debris that are likely to puncture a tire and there’s often not actually enough space there for a car to safely pass while staying in the lane next to it… You might be having a conversation with the person next to you in your car. Why is that okay?
  - nobodyandproud 5y ago
    It’s not a gutter.
- matsemann 5y ago
  > If they’re going single file, then they have a paved space past the solid lane border. Incredibly dangerous to drive there with cars zooming past, just inches away. > What’s happening is weekend cyclists having a conversation. Why is this okay? Are you jealous, driving alone in a car taking up as much space as multiple cyclists?
  - nobodyandproud 5y ago
    That’s the rule where I’m driving and cycling. It’s done that way because the space is about five to seven feet wide of paved and another 10 feet of unpaved. So no, it’s not incredibly dangerous unless the cyclists make it that way.
- rimunroe 5y ago
  Around where I live in Massachusetts (and I think where I used to live in Virginia), bikes are permitted to use an entire lane. Paved shoulders are not travel lanes. They often have debris (nails, glass bottles, etc) which don't get cleared by regular vehicle traffic.

nobodyandproud 5y ago

If they’re going single file, then they have a paved space past the solid lane border. What’s happening is weekend cyclists having a conversation. Why is this okay?

ryukafalz 5y ago
Setting aside the fact that the gutter is often full of uncleared debris that are likely to puncture a tire and there’s often not actually enough space there for a car to safely pass while staying in the lane next to it… You might be having a conversation with the person next to you in your car. Why is that okay?
- nobodyandproud 5y ago
  It’s not a gutter.
matsemann 5y ago
> If they’re going single file, then they have a paved space past the solid lane border. Incredibly dangerous to drive there with cars zooming past, just inches away. > What’s happening is weekend cyclists having a conversation. Why is this okay? Are you jealous, driving alone in a car taking up as much space as multiple cyclists?
- nobodyandproud 5y ago
  That’s the rule where I’m driving and cycling. It’s done that way because the space is about five to seven feet wide of paved and another 10 feet of unpaved. So no, it’s not incredibly dangerous unless the cyclists make it that way.
rimunroe 5y ago
Around where I live in Massachusetts (and I think where I used to live in Virginia), bikes are permitted to use an entire lane. Paved shoulders are not travel lanes. They often have debris (nails, glass bottles, etc) which don't get cleared by regular vehicle traffic.