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treat stop lights as stop signs This seems like a great way to get cyclists run over.

• wpietri 5y ago
  Cyclists have extensive practice in avoiding getting hit by cars, so I expect there will be little difference in cyclist injuries from this change.
• edmcnulty101 5y ago
  Self resolving problem?
• alecbz 5y ago
  In NYC most cyclists seem to already do this.
  • xrikcus 5y ago
    As stop signs? Usually as yields or as green lights, surely?
    • alecbz 5y ago
      Fair enough, at most as stop signs.
• UncleSam 5y ago
  This is already in effect in Idaho. In my experience, the cyclists that ride dangerously do so regardless of this rule.
  • causi 5y ago
    Sure, but at least an innocent driver is less likely to get arrested if the cyclist was breaking the law.
• rsanek 5y ago
  It's counter-intuitive, but the data [0][1] is quite clear that laws like these significantly improve safety for bicyclists. I found this video [2] useful in understanding what might be going on. [0] https://www.bikede.org/delaware-yield-crash-data/#page-content https://www.bikede.org/delaware-yield-crash-data/#page-conte... ("All reported injury crashes involving bicycles at stop sign controlled intersections dropped 23% in the 30 months after adopting the Safety Stop compared to 30 months prior to adoption") [1] https://drive.google.com/file/d/18WEQdDpxSmgETZBFPh5iO8LGAL9j6VOG/view https://drive.google.com/file/d/18WEQdDpxSmgETZBFPh5iO8LGAL9... ("In year after adopting the “Idaho Stop,” crashes between bicyclists and motorists fell 14.5%, and Boise was 30-60% safer on a bicycle compared to similarly sized cities") [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42oQN7fy_eM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42oQN7fy_eM