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Some psychedelics are more unpredictable than others, and incidentally these seem to be the ones that are hyped the most. LSD is much more predictable than mush

Some psychedelics are more unpredictable than others, and incidentally these seem to be the ones that are hyped the most. LSD is much more predictable than mushrooms for instance, and is well researched partially because of that. The seems generally true for synthetic vs naturally occurring substances across the board, though there are plenty of horrible synthetic drugs like bath salts, synthetic weed. Advocates seem favor this as it allows them a no true Scotsman defense. “You didn’t get real ayauasca”, or with cannabis the hand wavey talk of the “entourage effect.” The biggest problem facing psychedelic research are the researchers involved. They have little credibility, almost like that’s their intention.

cmrdporcupine 5y ago
I agree LSD may be more predictable than mushrooms, but it is also a crazy intense 12 hour voyage that leaves one with at least two days of recovery time after. Vs 4 hours for mushrooms. Both are extremely "set and setting" sensitive. Take either on a bad mood day with bad weather, a dirty house, and stuff on your mind... and you won't have a good time.
- tsimionescu 5y ago
  > Take either on a bad mood day with bad weather, a dirty house, and stuff on your mind... and you won't have a good time. That doesnt sound like the start of an apparently very promising candidate for treating depression and PTSD. Just goes to show how different experiences are, I guess...
  - cmrdporcupine 5y ago
    Yeah, that's because it isn't (imho a promising candidate). It's an interesting experience, though.
    - tsimionescu 5y ago
      Sure, I imagined as much. My point was that your experience (and others like yours) seems to differ significantly from the experience of, for example, the people penning these studies. I personally have no experience with psychedelics (and no desire to get any), so I am just looking with a bit of wonder at the differences from the sidelines.

cmrdporcupine 5y ago

I agree LSD may be more predictable than mushrooms, but it is also a crazy intense 12 hour voyage that leaves one with at least two days of recovery time after. Vs 4 hours for mushrooms. Both are extremely "set and setting" sensitive. Take either on a bad mood day with bad weather, a dirty house, and stuff on your mind... and you won't have a good time.

tsimionescu 5y ago
> Take either on a bad mood day with bad weather, a dirty house, and stuff on your mind... and you won't have a good time. That doesnt sound like the start of an apparently very promising candidate for treating depression and PTSD. Just goes to show how different experiences are, I guess...
- cmrdporcupine 5y ago
  Yeah, that's because it isn't (imho a promising candidate). It's an interesting experience, though.
  - tsimionescu 5y ago
    Sure, I imagined as much. My point was that your experience (and others like yours) seems to differ significantly from the experience of, for example, the people penning these studies. I personally have no experience with psychedelics (and no desire to get any), so I am just looking with a bit of wonder at the differences from the sidelines.