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It's clear that the writer is very passionate about this topic. I didn't realize that the idea was for the RPG to get stuck in the bar. I always though it was s

It's clear that the writer is very passionate about this topic. I didn't realize that the idea was for the RPG to get stuck in the bar. I always though it was so the explosion was outside of the vehicle. This article doesn't paint a particularly good picture for the armor. Which makes me believe that the person who came up with this got a lot of good money, but the value for the soldiers isn't there.

burnished 5y ago
How did you come to that conclusion?
- meatmanek 5y ago
  Indeed. The author of the article came to the opposite conclusion: > Is bar armour worth it? It depends, but broadly yes, it is cheap, simple, and adds a layer of increased protection against a common and widely proliferated threat that would otherwise be very likely to do significant damage to a vehicle, particularly lighter classes of vehicle like protected patrol and utility vehicles (MRAPs in old money) that are vastly overmatched by the threat.
- laichzeit0 5y ago
  > The reality of this myth is actually more significant - detonating the warhead on the bars can be at least as bad as if it had hit the defended vehicle and, in some cases, actually a worse result for the defended vehicle. Probably from this paragraph. It confused me as well. Throughout the whole article he’s building a case for how bad the armour is, if not worse than no slat armour, then concludes the article with “well broadly, it’s probably still better”.
  - burnished 5y ago
    Aha, I think I can see how that would be confusing. My interpretation was that it had a small chance of making a bad event worse - but I assumed a regular hit would usually be lethal anyway, and you cant kill some one more dead, so whatever probability of deflection they got out of it was pretty 'free'. I think he was going into extra detail on how the weapon performed to dispel rumours, and perhaps inadvertently created one (now some people are convinced this armor is somehow out there to line a fat cats pocket!
aidenn0 5y ago
I don't know; I get the sense that it was "Someone shoots an RPG-7 at your MRAP; you're definitely screwed. Someone shoots an RPG-7 at your MRAP with bar-armor, you're only maybe screwed" Seems like "maybe screwed" is a big improvement over "definitely screwed"

burnished 5y ago

How did you come to that conclusion?

meatmanek 5y ago
Indeed. The author of the article came to the opposite conclusion: > Is bar armour worth it? It depends, but broadly yes, it is cheap, simple, and adds a layer of increased protection against a common and widely proliferated threat that would otherwise be very likely to do significant damage to a vehicle, particularly lighter classes of vehicle like protected patrol and utility vehicles (MRAPs in old money) that are vastly overmatched by the threat.
laichzeit0 5y ago
> The reality of this myth is actually more significant - detonating the warhead on the bars can be at least as bad as if it had hit the defended vehicle and, in some cases, actually a worse result for the defended vehicle. Probably from this paragraph. It confused me as well. Throughout the whole article he’s building a case for how bad the armour is, if not worse than no slat armour, then concludes the article with “well broadly, it’s probably still better”.
- burnished 5y ago
  Aha, I think I can see how that would be confusing. My interpretation was that it had a small chance of making a bad event worse - but I assumed a regular hit would usually be lethal anyway, and you cant kill some one more dead, so whatever probability of deflection they got out of it was pretty 'free'. I think he was going into extra detail on how the weapon performed to dispel rumours, and perhaps inadvertently created one (now some people are convinced this armor is somehow out there to line a fat cats pocket!

aidenn0 5y ago

I don't know; I get the sense that it was "Someone shoots an RPG-7 at your MRAP; you're definitely screwed. Someone shoots an RPG-7 at your MRAP with bar-armor, you're only maybe screwed" Seems like "maybe screwed" is a big improvement over "definitely screwed"