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Indeed. "My gold-coated bon-bons are empty, the bottle of 20y scotch is half-full, and Im ONLY in a 5 star ski resort with my colleagues." Whereas I'm making 1

Indeed. "My gold-coated bon-bons are empty, the bottle of 20y scotch is half-full, and Im ONLY in a 5 star ski resort with my colleagues." Whereas I'm making 150k/yr in the midwest as 100% remote engineer, and livin every day to its fullest. I'm certainly getting no ski trips or otherwise. Most companies don't do that. I also don't look forward to working at a FAANG either. Way too much churn. And I frankly value stability as well. And the FAANGs aren't that at all. As much as the admins here want us to think in the most gracious way, I really think these are commissioned hit pieces against remote-work. Ive been tracking them, and its long-form articles like this that advocate in-person work where it doesn't need it.

olliej 5y ago
What? FAANGs are among the most stable in tech, Apple especially is notorious for lifers.
- filoleg 5y ago
  Yep, Microsoft is in a similar boat. There is a reason for why Red West part of the main campus is often referred to as Red Vest. Even outside of that, about half of the people I used to work with at MSFT were lifers (7+ years easily, a good number of 10+, a few 15+). Not judgement whatsoever, it sounded like a win-win situation for all sides involved (them and the company). Most of them had kids, families, and the primary reason for staying was great life-work balance and stability. They weren't "delusional" or anything, they knew all the tradeoffs of being a lifer, and they've made an extremely reasonable decision to stay. Note: what I said doesn't seem to apply to most Azure teams, as I've heard some wild stories from people who switched either to or from Azure (i.e., they experienced how it is to work at both Azure and the rest of MSFT). Azure is intense.
- philwelch 5y ago
  Amazon is probably an exception, and based on Netflix's stated attitude towards "adequate performance" I wouldn't necessarily expect stability there.

olliej 5y ago

What? FAANGs are among the most stable in tech, Apple especially is notorious for lifers.

filoleg 5y ago
Yep, Microsoft is in a similar boat. There is a reason for why Red West part of the main campus is often referred to as Red Vest. Even outside of that, about half of the people I used to work with at MSFT were lifers (7+ years easily, a good number of 10+, a few 15+). Not judgement whatsoever, it sounded like a win-win situation for all sides involved (them and the company). Most of them had kids, families, and the primary reason for staying was great life-work balance and stability. They weren't "delusional" or anything, they knew all the tradeoffs of being a lifer, and they've made an extremely reasonable decision to stay. Note: what I said doesn't seem to apply to most Azure teams, as I've heard some wild stories from people who switched either to or from Azure (i.e., they experienced how it is to work at both Azure and the rest of MSFT). Azure is intense.
philwelch 5y ago
Amazon is probably an exception, and based on Netflix's stated attitude towards "adequate performance" I wouldn't necessarily expect stability there.