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For anybody suffering with tinnitus I highly recommend the protocol William Shatner went through. You can train your brain so it’s not noticeable any more. Like

For anybody suffering with tinnitus I highly recommend the protocol William Shatner went through. You can train your brain so it’s not noticeable any more. Like wearing pants, it fades into the background.

notRobot 5y ago
Thanks for the recommendation, will look it up. I have friends who suffer from tinnitus and I hope it can help them.
- dazc 5y ago
  https://www.hear-it.org/Tinnitus-Retraining-Therapy https://www.hear-it.org/Tinnitus-Retraining-Therapy
neals 5y ago
Thanks, now I feel my pants
- gumby 5y ago
  In this work from home world, who wears pants anymore? Perhaps you are experiencing the “phantom pants“ phenomenon.
- derekp7 5y ago
  Reminds me of the Aware of Tongue Peanuts cartoon strip from way back when.
  - yesenadam 5y ago
    Your comment reminded me that I can see my nose.
KennyBlanken 5y ago
What is the scientific evidence regarding said "protocol"? I don't get my medical advice based off what some guy who starred in a low-budget sci-fi space soap for three seasons thinks.
xivzgrev 5y ago
I developed it as a kid, and even though I feel a lot of anxiety in life, I don’t feel anxious about it. Maybe it’s easier for us to accept certain things when we are younger. if it happened today I probably would be more anxious about it. It also helps that mine hasn’t gotten worse - I noticed it, took corrective action, and continue to be mindful about it thru today
- d4rkp4ttern 5y ago
  What kind of corrective action did you take if you don’t mind sharing ?
  - hackernewds 5y ago
    I'm not them. But in my case, meditation and being mindful made it worse. Browsing a ton of social media and being perpetually distracted in the attention economy's exploitation has helped me.
- deleted 5y ago
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loceng 5y ago
Berard Auditory Integration Training and the Tomatis Method are also worth looking into depending on what's going on; a book called "Hearing Equals Behaviour: Updated and Expanded" goes into detail on the above treatments.
- biggieshellz 5y ago
  The Tomatis Method is a little pseudoscience-y for my tastes -- you have to buy the tapes / app / etc. directly from the Tomatis folks, and I've never seen any good studies from a non-conflicted third party that support its efficacy.
  - loceng 5y ago
    All of the science and math behind the algorithms are available - you can recreate it yourself, but like most things it's easier to buy what someone else has already put the work in. I'd recommend getting and reading the book to balance out a perspective.
zackmorris 5y ago
I had tinnitus in my left ear, but it turned out to be related to TMJ, and it resolved after I wore an advanced lightwire functional (ALF) appliance for maybe 3-6 months to move my jaw back into a forward position. I had braces and wore headgear as a kid at the height of some 1980s hysteria about overbites that left millions of people like me with class II malocclusion (baby face) and sleep apnea. I'm having trouble finding information on it, because there's a lot more money in orthodontics than palatal expansion: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palatal_expansion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palatal_expansion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_palatal_expanders https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_palatal_expanders https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_orthodontic_functional_appliances https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_orthodontic_functional... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Mew#Orthotropics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Mew#Orthotropics https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19416436 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19416436 Right now I'm wearing Invisalign but have a small 1/2 tooth gap where the new bone has formed and am having trouble finding an orthodontist that will move molars forward to catch up. It's like asking someone who just dug a giant hole to fill it in again. It may require a temporary anchorage devices (TAD) or lever arm to move the teeth without tipping them. The programmer in me senses a code smell here where the orthodontics profession maybe shouldn't endorse practices it can't undo. But all I can really do is spread the word and encourage anyone considering braces to get a second opinion, especially for children. They may just need to wear a retainer for a year or two and learn good tongue posture habits, especially while they're still growing.
- skybrian 5y ago
  I'm curious, how was TMJ diagnosed?
  - zackmorris 5y ago
    Sorry, poor wording on my part, I meant something related to a bad bite (like TMJ). I had worn a joint on one side like a bad knee, but not the other. So the ALF realigned my bite by making room for the teeth to be where they wanted to be, so the joint could open back up. Good point though, my situation might be something unrelated, and I don't know if there's a correlation between TMJ and tinnitus.
BuildTheRobots 5y ago
Thanks for the pointer, I'll be looking it up shortly. Anecdotaly, I've found myself getting a phantom tone in the 15khz range (sounds just like a flyback) when in a quiet house. This could be entitely placebo effect, but I've gotten some relief by doing a bad emulation of active noise cancelling headphones, namely playing a quiet 15khz (ish) tone through my bone conduction headphones. It's not perfect by any means, but often the very act of trying to tune my tone generator to the right frequency can be enough to stop it annoying me (it becomes less noticeable). Im curious if anyone else has tried similar?

notRobot 5y ago

Thanks for the recommendation, will look it up. I have friends who suffer from tinnitus and I hope it can help them.

dazc 5y ago
https://www.hear-it.org/Tinnitus-Retraining-Therapy https://www.hear-it.org/Tinnitus-Retraining-Therapy

neals 5y ago

Thanks, now I feel my pants

gumby 5y ago
In this work from home world, who wears pants anymore? Perhaps you are experiencing the “phantom pants“ phenomenon.
derekp7 5y ago
Reminds me of the Aware of Tongue Peanuts cartoon strip from way back when.
- yesenadam 5y ago
  Your comment reminded me that I can see my nose.

KennyBlanken 5y ago

What is the scientific evidence regarding said "protocol"? I don't get my medical advice based off what some guy who starred in a low-budget sci-fi space soap for three seasons thinks.

xivzgrev 5y ago

I developed it as a kid, and even though I feel a lot of anxiety in life, I don’t feel anxious about it. Maybe it’s easier for us to accept certain things when we are younger. if it happened today I probably would be more anxious about it. It also helps that mine hasn’t gotten worse - I noticed it, took corrective action, and continue to be mindful about it thru today

d4rkp4ttern 5y ago
What kind of corrective action did you take if you don’t mind sharing ?
- hackernewds 5y ago
  I'm not them. But in my case, meditation and being mindful made it worse. Browsing a ton of social media and being perpetually distracted in the attention economy's exploitation has helped me.
deleted 5y ago
[deleted]

loceng 5y ago

Berard Auditory Integration Training and the Tomatis Method are also worth looking into depending on what's going on; a book called "Hearing Equals Behaviour: Updated and Expanded" goes into detail on the above treatments.

biggieshellz 5y ago
The Tomatis Method is a little pseudoscience-y for my tastes -- you have to buy the tapes / app / etc. directly from the Tomatis folks, and I've never seen any good studies from a non-conflicted third party that support its efficacy.
- loceng 5y ago
  All of the science and math behind the algorithms are available - you can recreate it yourself, but like most things it's easier to buy what someone else has already put the work in. I'd recommend getting and reading the book to balance out a perspective.

zackmorris 5y ago

I had tinnitus in my left ear, but it turned out to be related to TMJ, and it resolved after I wore an advanced lightwire functional (ALF) appliance for maybe 3-6 months to move my jaw back into a forward position. I had braces and wore headgear as a kid at the height of some 1980s hysteria about overbites that left millions of people like me with class II malocclusion (baby face) and sleep apnea. I'm having trouble finding information on it, because there's a lot more money in orthodontics than palatal expansion: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palatal_expansion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palatal_expansion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_palatal_expanders https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_palatal_expanders https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_orthodontic_functional_appliances https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_orthodontic_functional... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Mew#Orthotropics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Mew#Orthotropics https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19416436 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19416436 Right now I'm wearing Invisalign but have a small 1/2 tooth gap where the new bone has formed and am having trouble finding an orthodontist that will move molars forward to catch up. It's like asking someone who just dug a giant hole to fill it in again. It may require a temporary anchorage devices (TAD) or lever arm to move the teeth without tipping them. The programmer in me senses a code smell here where the orthodontics profession maybe shouldn't endorse practices it can't undo. But all I can really do is spread the word and encourage anyone considering braces to get a second opinion, especially for children. They may just need to wear a retainer for a year or two and learn good tongue posture habits, especially while they're still growing.

skybrian 5y ago
I'm curious, how was TMJ diagnosed?
- zackmorris 5y ago
  Sorry, poor wording on my part, I meant something related to a bad bite (like TMJ). I had worn a joint on one side like a bad knee, but not the other. So the ALF realigned my bite by making room for the teeth to be where they wanted to be, so the joint could open back up. Good point though, my situation might be something unrelated, and I don't know if there's a correlation between TMJ and tinnitus.

BuildTheRobots 5y ago

Thanks for the pointer, I'll be looking it up shortly. Anecdotaly, I've found myself getting a phantom tone in the 15khz range (sounds just like a flyback) when in a quiet house. This could be entitely placebo effect, but I've gotten some relief by doing a bad emulation of active noise cancelling headphones, namely playing a quiet 15khz (ish) tone through my bone conduction headphones. It's not perfect by any means, but often the very act of trying to tune my tone generator to the right frequency can be enough to stop it annoying me (it becomes less noticeable). Im curious if anyone else has tried similar?