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This seems to be quite a common view: "I'm not upset by the invasion of Ukraine because the US has done a bunch of bad things." Bringing the US into the issue

This seems to be quite a common view: "I'm not upset by the invasion of Ukraine because the US has done a bunch of bad things." Bringing the US into the issue seems to be quite the non-sequitur - is self-determinancy a concept that can only be viewed through the lens of US imperialism? Are the rights of Ukrainians (and other states bordering Russia) merely a construct of US policy? Suppose the US currently had in place an administration which took an isolationist, ambivalent or even "Putin has valid concerns" attitude - this is hardly a speculative leap - would your attitude change? If there is nothing to see in what is happening in Ukraine, why would US imperialism bother you?

SideburnsOfDoom 5y ago
> This seems to be quite a common view: "I'm not upset by the invasion of Ukraine because the US has done a bunch of bad things." There's a history to this "What about this other thing" distraction / derailing technique, and it was fairly common from Russia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism#Soviet_Union_and_Russia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism#Soviet_Union_and_... https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Whataboutism https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Whataboutism https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2013/08/the-soviet-era-strategy-that-explains-what-russia-is-doing-with-snowden/278314/ https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2013/08/th...