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I think it kinda depends on your age. When I was in my twenties and thirties, and despite being a country lad, living in cities was highly desirable and I had a

I think it kinda depends on your age. When I was in my twenties and thirties, and despite being a country lad, living in cities was highly desirable and I had a lot of good times and made some great long lasting friendships during that period. In my forties I became less enamoured by city life and in my fifties, now living in a rural location and working remotely, if I never see the inside of a city again then that's fine by me.

bombcar 5y ago
It’s interesting that in general everyone on HN loves big city living, but then you have a post about city noise and it’s a thousand posts complaining about urban noise and how you can’t get away from it. Of course, the key is that you can have both with the right transportation options.
- ceras 5y ago
  I think you're making a mistaken observation there. It's a skewed data set: of course people who like living in cities will talk about policies they'd like to see to make their cities better, and not complain about ways that a suburb or rural community could be better. I don't live in a suburb so it would be very odd for me to complain about a hypothetical suburb I don't live in, even though I'd have more complaints if I did live in a suburb. Just how HN as a whole talks about making tech jobs better (e.g. this remote work thread, which isn't relevant to most jobs) far more than it does about other jobs: it's just more relevant to the people here, and even if they overall like their tech job, they want it to be better.
- teh_klev 5y ago
  > Of course, the key is that you can have both with the right transportation options. I agree, but even then I'm pretty much done with cities and that benefit would be wasted on me :)
  - bombcar 5y ago
    Agreed, it would be nice for a map search that shows the furthest you can get and still be UPS deliverable AND have fast internet ...
- belligeront 5y ago
  Cities aren't loud, cars are. Unfortunately, if you live in the states, we've let cars overtake 99.9% of our cities. It's not this way everywhere. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTV-wwszGw8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTV-wwszGw8
  - goostavos 5y ago
    While I enjoy Not Just Bikes as a channel, it goes a little deep into the "cars are literally the root of every problem there has ever been even accounting for the period before cars existed." I live in the city. It's loud af, but general traffic is only a small part of it. Essential services like police, ambulance, and fire sirens, and trash collection are massively loud. Then you've got bars blasting music on Fridays. People shouting, laughing, and, in general, existing (often till the wee hours of the morning). They there's the meth-fueled tweakers shouting obscenities. Construction noises. Road work. etc.. Density in general is loud.
kredd 5y ago
Not just age. Depends on the city where you live, how you grew up and your priorities. I would say it’s harder for people that grew up in suburban communities to live their 40s/50s in a city. Meanwhile, I know people in their mid-life (40-60) that actually moved back from suburban lifestyle to NYC downtown life. From my personal perspective, even being retired in a city would be better than living in a small community where everything you do on a daily basis is exactly the same. But again, I understand others’ perspectives and everyone has different things they enjoy in life.
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bombcar 5y ago

It’s interesting that in general everyone on HN loves big city living, but then you have a post about city noise and it’s a thousand posts complaining about urban noise and how you can’t get away from it. Of course, the key is that you can have both with the right transportation options.

ceras 5y ago
I think you're making a mistaken observation there. It's a skewed data set: of course people who like living in cities will talk about policies they'd like to see to make their cities better, and not complain about ways that a suburb or rural community could be better. I don't live in a suburb so it would be very odd for me to complain about a hypothetical suburb I don't live in, even though I'd have more complaints if I did live in a suburb. Just how HN as a whole talks about making tech jobs better (e.g. this remote work thread, which isn't relevant to most jobs) far more than it does about other jobs: it's just more relevant to the people here, and even if they overall like their tech job, they want it to be better.
teh_klev 5y ago
> Of course, the key is that you can have both with the right transportation options. I agree, but even then I'm pretty much done with cities and that benefit would be wasted on me :)
- bombcar 5y ago
  Agreed, it would be nice for a map search that shows the furthest you can get and still be UPS deliverable AND have fast internet ...
belligeront 5y ago
Cities aren't loud, cars are. Unfortunately, if you live in the states, we've let cars overtake 99.9% of our cities. It's not this way everywhere. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTV-wwszGw8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTV-wwszGw8
- goostavos 5y ago
  While I enjoy Not Just Bikes as a channel, it goes a little deep into the "cars are literally the root of every problem there has ever been even accounting for the period before cars existed." I live in the city. It's loud af, but general traffic is only a small part of it. Essential services like police, ambulance, and fire sirens, and trash collection are massively loud. Then you've got bars blasting music on Fridays. People shouting, laughing, and, in general, existing (often till the wee hours of the morning). They there's the meth-fueled tweakers shouting obscenities. Construction noises. Road work. etc.. Density in general is loud.

kredd 5y ago

Not just age. Depends on the city where you live, how you grew up and your priorities. I would say it’s harder for people that grew up in suburban communities to live their 40s/50s in a city. Meanwhile, I know people in their mid-life (40-60) that actually moved back from suburban lifestyle to NYC downtown life. From my personal perspective, even being retired in a city would be better than living in a small community where everything you do on a daily basis is exactly the same. But again, I understand others’ perspectives and everyone has different things they enjoy in life.

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