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Generate Python extensions using Nim language

112 points by eagledotRL 4y ago

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cb321 4y ago
Maybe also of interest is a nascent package for R calling Nim (or vice versa): https://github.com/SciNim/rnim https://github.com/SciNim/rnim
- V1ndaar 4y ago
  To add to that, there's also a Nim <-> Julia bridge: https://github.com/clonkk/nimjl https://github.com/clonkk/nimjl
  - gavinray 4y ago
    To add to that, there's also a Nim <-> JVM bridge: https://github.com/yglukhov/jnim https://github.com/yglukhov/jnim And wrapperless C++ interop through macros: https://github.com/n0bra1n3r/cinterop https://github.com/n0bra1n3r/cinterop
kdheepak 4y ago
I've used https://github.com/yglukhov/nimpy https://github.com/yglukhov/nimpy and I have to say the package, the author and the nim community were all phenomenal in helping me implement nim code that works as a Python package.
- eagledotRL 4y ago
  Yes. community has been an outstanding factor in my whole journey of Nim so far.It becomes so easy to try out new features with such active feedback.
- mikenew 4y ago
  I've asked (sometimes stupid) questions in the Nim Matrix channel about some particular thing I was stuck on, and every time someone has answered it graciously and almost immediately. The community has been great, and I'm starting to really like the language. For me it's like Python in the sense that I can bang out a quick, single-file program on a whim, but if it starts growing beyond that Nim is really fast, expressive, and portable. I can cross-compile a binary for any common platform (Nintendo Switch even), and then just send it over and run it.
Qem 4y ago
I suspect Nim has a good shot at getting popular, by piggybacking on Python syntax, the same way several other languages (e.g. Java, JavaScript) got popular by piggybacking on C syntax. Python just became number 1 on TIOBE index. Once part of the generation of developers just starting now, Python-first, needs to learn a systems programming language, Nim provides a path of least resistance for migration, close to the syntax they will be already used to.
- bloblaw 4y ago
  For me, Nim provides much of the developer productiveness of Python, but with higher performance. I'm a big fan of Nim, and while I love Python, I keep finding more ways to use Nim instead of Python because it means if my proof-of-concept in Nim gets popular, I can avoid making trade-offs in scaling (due to performance).
- akvadrako 4y ago
  The problem with Nim is that it doesn't follow the Zen of Python (nor does Python anymore but Python doesn't need to compete as a new language). Basically, it's just too complicated and all over the place.
  - systemvoltage 4y ago
    Python ecosystem, say Pytest, doesn’t follow Python zen either. It has implicit magic all over the place. String parsing from function names, the entire concept of fixtures is exact opposite of “explicit is better than implicit”.
  - _dain_ 4y ago
    I mainly program in Python, but Nim has its own Zen and I respect that it's different. Copying bad design is not good design. If the compiler cannot reason about the code, neither can the programmer. Don’t get in the programmer’s way. Move work to compile-time: Programs are run more often than they are compiled. Customizable memory management. Concise code is not in conflict with readability, it enables readability. (Leverage meta programming to keep the language small.) Optimization is specialization: When you need more speed, write custom code. There should be one and only one programming language for everything. That language is Nim. If I wanted Zen of Python I'd just keep programming in Python ...
elcritch 4y ago
Also of interest for people might be Genny. It’s a Nim library to automate creating language bindings for other languages. Currently it supports Python, Node, and C. https://github.com/treeform/genny https://github.com/treeform/genny
poulpy123 4y ago
I'm toying a bit with nim these days, and I find it quite pleasant. it is a pity that it did not find the same success as go or rust
spindle 4y ago
This makes me want to write Python extensions using Nim using Spry - http://sprylang.se http://sprylang.se

112 points by eagledotRL 4y ago

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Maybe also of interest is a nascent package for R calling Nim (or vice versa): https://github.com/SciNim/rnim https://github.com/SciNim/rnim

V1ndaar 4y ago
To add to that, there's also a Nim <-> Julia bridge: https://github.com/clonkk/nimjl https://github.com/clonkk/nimjl
- gavinray 4y ago
  To add to that, there's also a Nim <-> JVM bridge: https://github.com/yglukhov/jnim https://github.com/yglukhov/jnim And wrapperless C++ interop through macros: https://github.com/n0bra1n3r/cinterop https://github.com/n0bra1n3r/cinterop

kdheepak 4y ago

I've used https://github.com/yglukhov/nimpy https://github.com/yglukhov/nimpy and I have to say the package, the author and the nim community were all phenomenal in helping me implement nim code that works as a Python package.

eagledotRL 4y ago
Yes. community has been an outstanding factor in my whole journey of Nim so far.It becomes so easy to try out new features with such active feedback.
mikenew 4y ago
I've asked (sometimes stupid) questions in the Nim Matrix channel about some particular thing I was stuck on, and every time someone has answered it graciously and almost immediately. The community has been great, and I'm starting to really like the language. For me it's like Python in the sense that I can bang out a quick, single-file program on a whim, but if it starts growing beyond that Nim is really fast, expressive, and portable. I can cross-compile a binary for any common platform (Nintendo Switch even), and then just send it over and run it.

Qem 4y ago

I suspect Nim has a good shot at getting popular, by piggybacking on Python syntax, the same way several other languages (e.g. Java, JavaScript) got popular by piggybacking on C syntax. Python just became number 1 on TIOBE index. Once part of the generation of developers just starting now, Python-first, needs to learn a systems programming language, Nim provides a path of least resistance for migration, close to the syntax they will be already used to.

bloblaw 4y ago
For me, Nim provides much of the developer productiveness of Python, but with higher performance. I'm a big fan of Nim, and while I love Python, I keep finding more ways to use Nim instead of Python because it means if my proof-of-concept in Nim gets popular, I can avoid making trade-offs in scaling (due to performance).
akvadrako 4y ago
The problem with Nim is that it doesn't follow the Zen of Python (nor does Python anymore but Python doesn't need to compete as a new language). Basically, it's just too complicated and all over the place.
- systemvoltage 4y ago
  Python ecosystem, say Pytest, doesn’t follow Python zen either. It has implicit magic all over the place. String parsing from function names, the entire concept of fixtures is exact opposite of “explicit is better than implicit”.
- _dain_ 4y ago
  I mainly program in Python, but Nim has its own Zen and I respect that it's different. Copying bad design is not good design. If the compiler cannot reason about the code, neither can the programmer. Don’t get in the programmer’s way. Move work to compile-time: Programs are run more often than they are compiled. Customizable memory management. Concise code is not in conflict with readability, it enables readability. (Leverage meta programming to keep the language small.) Optimization is specialization: When you need more speed, write custom code. There should be one and only one programming language for everything. That language is Nim. If I wanted Zen of Python I'd just keep programming in Python ...

elcritch 4y ago

Also of interest for people might be Genny. It’s a Nim library to automate creating language bindings for other languages. Currently it supports Python, Node, and C. https://github.com/treeform/genny https://github.com/treeform/genny

poulpy123 4y ago

I'm toying a bit with nim these days, and I find it quite pleasant. it is a pity that it did not find the same success as go or rust

spindle 4y ago

This makes me want to write Python extensions using Nim using Spry - http://sprylang.se http://sprylang.se