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Bit of a weak argument as you require and internet conneciton to pull the source.
by treekogreen 4y ago
Bit of a weak argument as you require and internet conneciton to pull the source.
- quickthrower2 4y agoSays who? (inserts CDROM…)
- jcelerier 4y agoI can go to my nearest journal kiosk and I'm pretty confident I can find a paper Linux magazine which comes a cd with recent kernel source
- conradludgate 4y agoIf that's the case, you can do this with cargo vendor, as many other threads have mentioned
- orf 4y agoIn all likelihood, no you couldn’t. Because nobody buys those anymore.
- pjmlp 4y agoFunny, here in Europe there are plenty of those on sale, so apparently people do still buy them.
- orf 4y agoStreet level magazine kiosks sell magazines with up to date Linux kernel CD roms? That’s a lie. I’ve literally never seen that anywhere in Europe in the last decade. You might be able to find them in specialist shops or larger supermarkets, as you can in the UK, but street level kiosks? Get real.
- jcelerier 4y agoI'm in france, I regularly buy one of those when I take the train lol. We have quite a bit of choice and they all have recent-ish issues: https://www.journaux.fr/linux_informatique_1_0_130.html https://www.journaux.fr/linux_informatique_1_0_130.html and you can find at least a couple of them in most kiosks ; at least Linux Identity always comes with a physical disk
- poulpy123 4y agoNot in my European country at least. I haven't see a magazine with CD-ROM in years. And most people don't have a cd-dom reader anymore
- pjmlp 4y agoHere are a couple for you, https://www.linux-magazin.de https://www.linux-magazin.de https://www.linuxformat.com/ https://www.linuxformat.com/
- orf 4y agoThe argument isn’t that they don’t exist or are not published, it’s that they are not published widely. Given that the circulation for Linuxformat was just 19,000 in 2014, it seems that that number backs up the position that you wouldn’t find this at a street level vendor.
- pjmlp 4y agoI would call most shopping mall surfaces and train station newstands, street level.
- orf 4y agoAnd what do you suppose is the ratio between train stations + shopping malls vs actual street level tobacco and magazine stands/shops is in most European countries? 1 to 700? 1 to 1000? Any way, the whole argument is redundant. Go head to your nearest newsagent and see if they stock it. If you live on top of a train station or a supermarket then you’re due both congratulations and commiserations. For everyone else… you can’t buy them at your nearest kiosk.
- pjmlp 4y agoPlenty of people can buy them, even at my tiny town back home, that is a little more than "everyone else".
- dboreham 4y agoAfter using your time machine to go back to 2010.
- jcelerier 4y agoJust went to the first one I could find and there are 4 different Linux magazines lol, here's a pic: https://ibb.co/djscJ94 https://ibb.co/djscJ94
- dunefox 4y ago> I can go to my nearest journal kiosk and I'm pretty confident I can find a paper Linux magazine which comes a cd with recent kernel source This has to be one of the most insane threads I've read in a while.
- dageshi 4y agoDo paper linux magazines actually exist any more? 10-15 years ago I'd agree with you, now... that would actually surprise me.
- pjmlp 4y agoHere you go, https://www.linux-magazin.de/ https://www.linux-magazin.de/
- baq 4y agoyou have a cd reader...?
- BlueTemplar 4y agoThis is not particularly relevant, as it could also be an USB stick or a SD card. (But why wouldn't you have readers for all 3, potentially as peripherals if you don't have a desktop ?)
- dunefox 4y agoThe last CD or DVD I had was over ten years ago. I just have no use for them.
- BlueTemplar 4y agoAnd you don't have any friends & family that regularly come for help ? When I built my current PC, I didn't bother with a 3.5" floppy drive, but I still had to get an USB one a couple of years ago when an acquaintance showed up needing to read some files from them...
- dunefox 4y agoI do but they don't use them either.
- IYasha 4y ago...and you don't? I can lend you mine :3
- shp0ngle 4y agoI am not sure if you are even serious
- pjmlp 4y agohttps://www.linux-magazin.de/ https://www.linux-magazin.de/
- pjmlp 4y agoA DVD on a Linux magazine will do.
- berkut 4y agoAnd you can then stick that on a network drive or scp it on internal airgapped networks without direct internet access.
- varajelle 4y agoAnd you can do the same with the Rust dependencies (with cargo-vendor for example) Cargo has even an --offline flag.
- easytiger 4y agoIn certain environments i have extensively worked in, the machines on which one builds are only allowed internet access on an ip:port basis after months long process involving dozens of people in multiple teams. Working offline is needed
- goodpoint 4y agoNot at all. Pulling sources, reviewing and vetting them and finally building are completely different steps. Linux package maintainers do the vetting. Buildbots build in a clean room environment, without Internet access. If you mix up the steps supply chain security is gone.
- IYasha 4y agoMany people download once, use constantly and on many machines. My dev PC was never online since it was put together, all patching and updating was performed offline. All builds were bit-to-bit reproducible.