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I'm keeping a spreadsheet for a new Linux Laptop (Alder Lake or preferably a Rembrandt) w/ HiDPI(ish) and 32GB+ of RAM and there are some options. Currently an

by lhl 5y ago

I'm keeping a spreadsheet for a new Linux Laptop (Alder Lake or preferably a Rembrandt) w/ HiDPI(ish) and 32GB+ of RAM and there are some options. Currently announced: * Lenovo X1 Carbon G10 - 14" 16:10 3840x2400 500-nit 100% DCI-P3 60Hz IPS * Lenovo ThinkBook 13X Gen2 - 14" 16:10 2560x1600 400-nit 60Hz IPS * Lenovo ThinkPad Z13 - 13.3" 16:10 2880x1800 400-nit 100% DCI-P3 60Hz IPS * ASUS Zenbook 14X OLED UX5401 - 14" 16:10 2880x1800 550-nit 100% DCI-P3 90Hz OLED * Asus Vivobook S 14X OLED - 14.5" 16:10 2880x1800 550-nit 100% DCI-P3 120Hz OLED I'm also keeping an eye out for the next gen refresh of the Tuxedo Infinity Book Pro 14 - they use a 16:10 2880x1800 400-nit display as well (these are a TongFang ID4H1, and XPG and some other OEMs also use a similar chassis).

jalopy 5y ago
Any chance you'd be willing to share the spreadsheet (read-only)? That would be a great resource.
- lhl 5y ago
  Sure, here you go: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1lXdXJEkKqsDNFm3LuPpBlkKxYf8lUhl8NNBqpbmrNuA/edit?usp=sharing https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1lXdXJEkKqsDNFm3LuPpB...
madduci 5y ago
I have a ThinkPad E15 with Ryzen processor and supports 64GB RAM
Lucasoato 5y ago
My last 2 company laptop were a Lenovo X1 Carbon G8 and a Lenovo X1 Carbon G9. These machines are so reliable and resilient, no matter how much you travel, they are indestructible. I definitely recommend them.
- akvadrako 5y ago
  I would not. I've had an X1C7 for three years now. Numerous Linux driver issues (especially audio), issues restoring from sleep, had the screen replaced twice and the trackpad replaced once. To be fair if you get the on-site repair warranty, that is pretty great.
  - vbernat 5y ago
    The audio problems with the C7 were unfortunate but more on the Intel side to have force pushed that with this generation of CPU while nothing was ready. I got it 6 months later at the moment where things were starting working. Never got much trouble for resting from sleep. I am currently still using my old X1C2 from 2014. That's quite reliable by my standards. I would prefer to continue with Lenovo due to reliability and good Linux support (there is a dedicated engineer for that matter who is available on their forums and who help various distributions including Debian and Fedora to make things work). I was waiting for the Gen 10 but battery life seems disappointing on Windows, so I am waiting for people to test on Linux. Gen9 only has FHD+ or 4K+ (too low and too high).
  - Lucasoato 5y ago
    To solve the audio issues try with this command: > pulseaudio -k
akvadrako 5y ago
I'm also looking for a new Linux laptop for this spring. I thought about the Tuxedo laptops, but after reading around there are a lot of complaints about quality and even Linux driver issues. I've been pretty disappointed with my Lenovo X1 Carbon and don't want another Chinese laptop, so I'm thinking to go ASUS. Currently maybe one of: - ASUS Vivobook Pro 14X, 14" OLED, 600 nits (peak), 3K, 90Hz - ASUS ROG Zephyrus G14, 14" LCD, 500 nits, 120Hz, 2560x1600, AMD GPU
- moneywoes 5y ago
  is burn in a problem on those OLED displays?
- lhl 5y ago
  I personally try to avoid Nvidia dGPUs since I usually don't need CUDA and they tend to be a PITA even w/ DKMS drivers and are terrible for battery life. I think the thing with the currently available Vivobook Pro 14Xs (M4700/N7400) is that they're currently last-gen Ryzen 5000 and Intel 11th gen chips. Even though I'd like to try out the OLED display, I'd probably go w/ the G14 atm - Ryzen 6000 and also you get 1 unsoldered DIMM slot so you could probably get yourself get up to 40GB of DDR5. While Asus doesn't give a crap about Linux, there's a pretty active community (focused mostly on the G/M ROG laptops, maybe another good reason to go w/ the G14): https://asus-linux.org/ https://asus-linux.org/ It seems like these days there are always si0x/s3 or other power drain issues w/ non-validated Linux laptops though. A good reason to support companies like Tuxedo, System76, Slimbook, Starlabs etc that at least make some effort that their EC/BIOSes actually play nice.
  - akvadrako 5y ago
    I agree Linux support would be ideal, but hardware quality is of first importance; many of those companies are just rebranded Clevo. Until recently I agreed about absolutely no Nvidia, though it might be improving. For a few months now the drivers support the standard Wayland interface GBM, which at least means any compositor should work with them.
    - 5y ago
elromulous 5y ago
No xps13?

by lhl 5y ago

jalopy 5y ago

Any chance you'd be willing to share the spreadsheet (read-only)? That would be a great resource.

lhl 5y ago
Sure, here you go: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1lXdXJEkKqsDNFm3LuPpBlkKxYf8lUhl8NNBqpbmrNuA/edit?usp=sharing https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1lXdXJEkKqsDNFm3LuPpB...

madduci 5y ago

I have a ThinkPad E15 with Ryzen processor and supports 64GB RAM

Lucasoato 5y ago

My last 2 company laptop were a Lenovo X1 Carbon G8 and a Lenovo X1 Carbon G9. These machines are so reliable and resilient, no matter how much you travel, they are indestructible. I definitely recommend them.

akvadrako 5y ago
I would not. I've had an X1C7 for three years now. Numerous Linux driver issues (especially audio), issues restoring from sleep, had the screen replaced twice and the trackpad replaced once. To be fair if you get the on-site repair warranty, that is pretty great.
- vbernat 5y ago
  The audio problems with the C7 were unfortunate but more on the Intel side to have force pushed that with this generation of CPU while nothing was ready. I got it 6 months later at the moment where things were starting working. Never got much trouble for resting from sleep. I am currently still using my old X1C2 from 2014. That's quite reliable by my standards. I would prefer to continue with Lenovo due to reliability and good Linux support (there is a dedicated engineer for that matter who is available on their forums and who help various distributions including Debian and Fedora to make things work). I was waiting for the Gen 10 but battery life seems disappointing on Windows, so I am waiting for people to test on Linux. Gen9 only has FHD+ or 4K+ (too low and too high).
- Lucasoato 5y ago
  To solve the audio issues try with this command: > pulseaudio -k

akvadrako 5y ago

I'm also looking for a new Linux laptop for this spring. I thought about the Tuxedo laptops, but after reading around there are a lot of complaints about quality and even Linux driver issues. I've been pretty disappointed with my Lenovo X1 Carbon and don't want another Chinese laptop, so I'm thinking to go ASUS. Currently maybe one of: - ASUS Vivobook Pro 14X, 14" OLED, 600 nits (peak), 3K, 90Hz - ASUS ROG Zephyrus G14, 14" LCD, 500 nits, 120Hz, 2560x1600, AMD GPU

moneywoes 5y ago
is burn in a problem on those OLED displays?
lhl 5y ago
I personally try to avoid Nvidia dGPUs since I usually don't need CUDA and they tend to be a PITA even w/ DKMS drivers and are terrible for battery life. I think the thing with the currently available Vivobook Pro 14Xs (M4700/N7400) is that they're currently last-gen Ryzen 5000 and Intel 11th gen chips. Even though I'd like to try out the OLED display, I'd probably go w/ the G14 atm - Ryzen 6000 and also you get 1 unsoldered DIMM slot so you could probably get yourself get up to 40GB of DDR5. While Asus doesn't give a crap about Linux, there's a pretty active community (focused mostly on the G/M ROG laptops, maybe another good reason to go w/ the G14): https://asus-linux.org/ https://asus-linux.org/ It seems like these days there are always si0x/s3 or other power drain issues w/ non-validated Linux laptops though. A good reason to support companies like Tuxedo, System76, Slimbook, Starlabs etc that at least make some effort that their EC/BIOSes actually play nice.
- akvadrako 5y ago
  I agree Linux support would be ideal, but hardware quality is of first importance; many of those companies are just rebranded Clevo. Until recently I agreed about absolutely no Nvidia, though it might be improving. For a few months now the drivers support the standard Wayland interface GBM, which at least means any compositor should work with them.
  - 5y ago

elromulous 5y ago

No xps13?