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So what you’re saying is you have no evidence for the claims of the post I responded to and so you want to pivot to some other narratives.

by xtian 4y ago

kurthr 4y ago
Maybe it is difficult to distinguish individuals, but I didn't make the original post. You made some broad request for some "evidence" that I feel no need to provide when it is self apparent. What is the Great Firewall of China for? Why does it only exist there? Why doesn't https work... or most VPNs? If you don't know what a Hukou is, or you don't know about the need to check in with a party representative when you move cities in China (and check in with the police for foreigners) then you should find out (note foreigners can't stay in most hotels, because many don't have procedures in place to track them). If you haven't already seen that you can be jailed for using a VPN in China, or posting material "against the party", then I suspect you're not really interested. Go find out on Weibo 自干五.
- xtian 4y ago
  Why did you reply to me directly then? If you don’t know what threads are then you should find out. In what way exactly was what I asked for broad? Please, I want to hold you to this point. In my experience, people like you are incapable of backing up your claims with the barest minimum of hard evidence, and you try to cover that fact up with a shotgun spray (or another kind of spray) of narratives and an uppity, condescending affectation. I’m not impressed. Anyone observing what’s going on within the US-centric Internet right now should be able to understand dispassionately how China benefited from creating the conditions for its own national tech companies to develop. No US company can suddenly shut off mobile payments infrastructure within China, for instance.
  - kurthr 4y ago
    To quote you, "Here’s a question I expect you’ll never answer: is it within the capabilities of any groups within the West (state-sponsored or otherwise) to fabricate the information you’re using to make those assessments? And if so, how have you decisively eliminated this possibility?"
    - xtian 4y ago
      Oh you really got me by plumbing my comment history for an out of context non sequitur you could use. It really shows the intellectual depth and substance of your position when you avoid and get triggered by extremely basic but inconvenient questions.
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So what you’re saying is you have no evidence for the claims of the post I responded to and so you want to pivot to some other narratives.

by xtian 4y ago

So what you’re saying is you have no evidence for the claims of the post I responded to and so you want to pivot to some other narratives.

kurthr 4y ago

Maybe it is difficult to distinguish individuals, but I didn't make the original post. You made some broad request for some "evidence" that I feel no need to provide when it is self apparent. What is the Great Firewall of China for? Why does it only exist there? Why doesn't https work... or most VPNs? If you don't know what a Hukou is, or you don't know about the need to check in with a party representative when you move cities in China (and check in with the police for foreigners) then you should find out (note foreigners can't stay in most hotels, because many don't have procedures in place to track them). If you haven't already seen that you can be jailed for using a VPN in China, or posting material "against the party", then I suspect you're not really interested. Go find out on Weibo 自干五.

xtian 4y ago
Why did you reply to me directly then? If you don’t know what threads are then you should find out. In what way exactly was what I asked for broad? Please, I want to hold you to this point. In my experience, people like you are incapable of backing up your claims with the barest minimum of hard evidence, and you try to cover that fact up with a shotgun spray (or another kind of spray) of narratives and an uppity, condescending affectation. I’m not impressed. Anyone observing what’s going on within the US-centric Internet right now should be able to understand dispassionately how China benefited from creating the conditions for its own national tech companies to develop. No US company can suddenly shut off mobile payments infrastructure within China, for instance.
- kurthr 4y ago
  To quote you, "Here’s a question I expect you’ll never answer: is it within the capabilities of any groups within the West (state-sponsored or otherwise) to fabricate the information you’re using to make those assessments? And if so, how have you decisively eliminated this possibility?"
  - xtian 4y ago
    Oh you really got me by plumbing my comment history for an out of context non sequitur you could use. It really shows the intellectual depth and substance of your position when you avoid and get triggered by extremely basic but inconvenient questions.
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