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The punishment must be proportionate to the crime. Companies pay less in compensation when a worker has serious workplace injuries resulting in disability than

The punishment must be proportionate to the crime. Companies pay less in compensation when a worker has serious workplace injuries resulting in disability than this. I see no justification in "racism" carrying a higher punishment than that.

_8j50 5y ago
This isn't a criminal prosecution. The court can induce a cost that is more than the measurable damage caused. How do you measure racism? $1000 each time a derogatory remark is made? The cause of action in whatever civil law they are using for the suit might help but ultimately the victim didn't lose money, they were harmed and a fair compensation would be to harm the guilty party equally. As in, cause Elon and his company an equivalent level of distress over an equivalent period of time. A fair punishment would be to reward the victim a random percentage of the company's net profits with 10% increments every year ( 10,30,40% ) with 40% max for as many number of years the person worked there and a 95% tax on that award to prevent they guy taking over the company. The company will suffer distress that is arbitrary and prejudicial in nature just like the victim did.
- Thorentis 5y ago
  Your "fair punishment" is based on the idea that because the racism was random and arbitrary, the punishment should also be random and arbitrary. This isn't how justice works, and if this was applied to any other "crime", nobody would be okay with it.
  - _8j50 5y ago
    Care to elaborate? I was implying it should apply to other crime as well. In my perfect world, prison sentences would be a lot less common. Fairness is a fundamental compnent of justice. If there is a victim then the aggressor needs to be harmed in a similar way. Theft? Something if equal value should be taken from you. I also agree with "lashing" and damaging a persons body for certain crimes like rape for example (chemical or otherwise castration in addition to some torment). Fines are a joke, a slap in the face of justice. The affect the poor only even when proportional to income. 25% of a poor person's wealth has much more impact than 25% of a billionaire's wealth or a corporation's profits. While I believe in mercy strongly (especially when the victim supports it), justice has to have fairness and equal application and is better left not administered than administered partially.
    - Thorentis 5y ago
      > Theft? Something if equal value should be taken from you. What if the theft was "random and arbitrary", as most thefts are? Why does soemthing of equal value need to be taken in the case of a theft, but when it comes to racism, a figure of over $100m is justified? This makes absolutely no sense.

_8j50 5y ago

This isn't a criminal prosecution. The court can induce a cost that is more than the measurable damage caused. How do you measure racism? $1000 each time a derogatory remark is made? The cause of action in whatever civil law they are using for the suit might help but ultimately the victim didn't lose money, they were harmed and a fair compensation would be to harm the guilty party equally. As in, cause Elon and his company an equivalent level of distress over an equivalent period of time. A fair punishment would be to reward the victim a random percentage of the company's net profits with 10% increments every year ( 10,30,40% ) with 40% max for as many number of years the person worked there and a 95% tax on that award to prevent they guy taking over the company. The company will suffer distress that is arbitrary and prejudicial in nature just like the victim did.

Thorentis 5y ago
Your "fair punishment" is based on the idea that because the racism was random and arbitrary, the punishment should also be random and arbitrary. This isn't how justice works, and if this was applied to any other "crime", nobody would be okay with it.
- _8j50 5y ago
  Care to elaborate? I was implying it should apply to other crime as well. In my perfect world, prison sentences would be a lot less common. Fairness is a fundamental compnent of justice. If there is a victim then the aggressor needs to be harmed in a similar way. Theft? Something if equal value should be taken from you. I also agree with "lashing" and damaging a persons body for certain crimes like rape for example (chemical or otherwise castration in addition to some torment). Fines are a joke, a slap in the face of justice. The affect the poor only even when proportional to income. 25% of a poor person's wealth has much more impact than 25% of a billionaire's wealth or a corporation's profits. While I believe in mercy strongly (especially when the victim supports it), justice has to have fairness and equal application and is better left not administered than administered partially.
  - Thorentis 5y ago
    > Theft? Something if equal value should be taken from you. What if the theft was "random and arbitrary", as most thefts are? Why does soemthing of equal value need to be taken in the case of a theft, but when it comes to racism, a figure of over $100m is justified? This makes absolutely no sense.