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How does the touchpad and the 2 finger scroll compare to the MacBooks? Having used those I haven't found anything matching those.

k1rcher 5y ago
Interested in this too, as well as how it compares to the Framework
- freedomben 5y ago
  I can't comment on the StarBook, but the Framework touchpad is really great. I had an early model that had a slightly annoying out-of-the-box issue where I had to click kind of hard, but after doing that it works great now. Two-finger scroll is super smooth, and it properly detects 1/2/3 finger gestures, etc.
  - VTimofeenko 5y ago
    I think my frame.work is doing the "kinda hard" click thing too. Did you just break it in, or change something mechanically? I mostly use the keyboard, so it's a very minor annoyance to me.
    - freedomben 5y ago
      ah yes, let me find the instructions! EDIT: this is what fixed it for me: > Pressing the bottom center of the touchpad firmly a few times has resolved the issue in some cases.[1] Said in a slightly different way: > There were also a small number of early units produced that may have contact issues on the physical switch on the Touchpad. Try pressing the bottom middle of the Touchpad firmly a few times to see if that resolves the issue. If it does not, please contact Framework Support.[2] [1]: https://community.frame.work/t/known-issues-on-early-framework-laptops/4551 https://community.frame.work/t/known-issues-on-early-framewo... [2]: https://knowledgebase.frame.work/en_us/touchpad-not-working-SJQQqt2Hu https://knowledgebase.frame.work/en_us/touchpad-not-working-...
      - VTimofeenko 5y ago
        Looks like after a few _hard_ presses the problems are gone. Thanks!
        freedomben 5y ago
        Awesome! super glad to hear it. btw framework support is really great. I've opened a couple of cases with them and they're super helpful
        VTimofeenko 5y ago
        Yeah, I had the same experience. They reply super fast and with no bs. As a support engineer in the past life, I really appreciated it.
2muchcoffeeman 5y ago
Nothing compares to the Apple track pad. My XPS 17 from 2020 has a worse trackpad than my 2012 MB Air.
- BSOhealth 5y ago
  I purchased and returned an XPS last year and the trackpad was unbelievably bad. After using Mac laptops for the previous 10 years, I hadn’t thought the difference in hardware quality could be so far apart. MacBooks are at least a generation ahead of the best PC hardware (generation as in, 10 years)
  - tomrod 5y ago
    Likewise, 2021 Dell XPS 15. Had to retire it very early -- trackpad issues, then frame deformation caused by moving the laptop would cause the RAM or the CPU to crash. Framework working great now.
    - burnt_toast 5y ago
      > 2021 Dell XPS 15. Had to retire it very early -- trackpad issues Me over here with a 2021 XPS 15 using a mouse 24/7 because the touchpad lags hard on linux but refuses to admit I got burnt lol. I'd be over the moon if framework released a 15" model.
      - tomrod 5y ago
        Not going to lie, I was worried about the lack of a 15" model. But, working great for me even so. I just couldn't be productive with the laptop, ya know? You gotta be able to move!
  - PhileasNietzche 5y ago
    https://www.pcmag.com/picks/the-best-laptops?test_uuid=06r4MYCu5PZzCkufjQSV3po&test_variant=b https://www.pcmag.com/picks/the-best-laptops?test_uuid=06r4M... The XPS isn't a great example of the best PC hardware, but it IS a pretty good example of the best laptop performance one can get for the price of an iPhone. ^^

k1rcher 5y ago

Interested in this too, as well as how it compares to the Framework

freedomben 5y ago
I can't comment on the StarBook, but the Framework touchpad is really great. I had an early model that had a slightly annoying out-of-the-box issue where I had to click kind of hard, but after doing that it works great now. Two-finger scroll is super smooth, and it properly detects 1/2/3 finger gestures, etc.
- VTimofeenko 5y ago
  I think my frame.work is doing the "kinda hard" click thing too. Did you just break it in, or change something mechanically? I mostly use the keyboard, so it's a very minor annoyance to me.
  - freedomben 5y ago
    ah yes, let me find the instructions! EDIT: this is what fixed it for me: > Pressing the bottom center of the touchpad firmly a few times has resolved the issue in some cases.[1] Said in a slightly different way: > There were also a small number of early units produced that may have contact issues on the physical switch on the Touchpad. Try pressing the bottom middle of the Touchpad firmly a few times to see if that resolves the issue. If it does not, please contact Framework Support.[2] [1]: https://community.frame.work/t/known-issues-on-early-framework-laptops/4551 https://community.frame.work/t/known-issues-on-early-framewo... [2]: https://knowledgebase.frame.work/en_us/touchpad-not-working-SJQQqt2Hu https://knowledgebase.frame.work/en_us/touchpad-not-working-...
    - VTimofeenko 5y ago
      Looks like after a few _hard_ presses the problems are gone. Thanks!
      - freedomben 5y ago
        Awesome! super glad to hear it. btw framework support is really great. I've opened a couple of cases with them and they're super helpful
        VTimofeenko 5y ago
        Yeah, I had the same experience. They reply super fast and with no bs. As a support engineer in the past life, I really appreciated it.

2muchcoffeeman 5y ago

Nothing compares to the Apple track pad. My XPS 17 from 2020 has a worse trackpad than my 2012 MB Air.

BSOhealth 5y ago
I purchased and returned an XPS last year and the trackpad was unbelievably bad. After using Mac laptops for the previous 10 years, I hadn’t thought the difference in hardware quality could be so far apart. MacBooks are at least a generation ahead of the best PC hardware (generation as in, 10 years)
- tomrod 5y ago
  Likewise, 2021 Dell XPS 15. Had to retire it very early -- trackpad issues, then frame deformation caused by moving the laptop would cause the RAM or the CPU to crash. Framework working great now.
  - burnt_toast 5y ago
    > 2021 Dell XPS 15. Had to retire it very early -- trackpad issues Me over here with a 2021 XPS 15 using a mouse 24/7 because the touchpad lags hard on linux but refuses to admit I got burnt lol. I'd be over the moon if framework released a 15" model.
    - tomrod 5y ago
      Not going to lie, I was worried about the lack of a 15" model. But, working great for me even so. I just couldn't be productive with the laptop, ya know? You gotta be able to move!
- PhileasNietzche 5y ago
  https://www.pcmag.com/picks/the-best-laptops?test_uuid=06r4MYCu5PZzCkufjQSV3po&test_variant=b https://www.pcmag.com/picks/the-best-laptops?test_uuid=06r4M... The XPS isn't a great example of the best PC hardware, but it IS a pretty good example of the best laptop performance one can get for the price of an iPhone. ^^