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> EDIT: It is quite possible that Ukrainians knew some kind of weakness to the ship that they exploited during the attack. Such as that it’s loaded with explos
by rosndo 5y ago
> EDIT: It is quite possible that Ukrainians knew some kind of weakness to the ship that they exploited during the attack.
Such as that it’s loaded with explosives that won’t respond well to being hit with anti ship missiles?
- sliken 5y agoMore along the lines of the radar for most of it's systems point forward, leaving the rear much less protected by anti-missile tech.
- dragontamer 5y agoIts a cruiser. Which means the ship was loaded with anti-missile missiles, anti-missile RADAR, and anti-missile CIWS. The fact remains that the Ukrainians killed an anti-missile cruiser, with... a missile. That's impressive. Something horribly wrong has happened to the Russian anti-missile defense systems. That suggests that the Ukrainians know about a weakness to the Russian missile defense systems... a blindspot where the RADAR wouldn't pickup enemy missiles perhaps? In any case, maybe its not so surprising, Ukrainians built the ship after all.
- rich_sasha 5y agoApparently the ship’s armaments were vastly out of date. Its combat systems were from 90s and it had no modern anti-missile defences. Its offensive weaponry was more impressive, but even then it barely carried the radars to support them.
- speeder 5y agoI saw elsewhere that an upgrade was proposed but the budget for it was denied... I guess it is just a matter of reading the proposal, figure out what needed upgrading, and considering that to be the weakness you can exploit. An analogy would be finding out the castle you want to conquer was supposed to have a rear gate repaired but the repairs were postponed... it would be quite obvious to attack that rear gate.
- saynay 5y agoWhat I was hearing earlier is the old anti-missile RADAR that was in use on that ship was not capable of dealing with targets approaching from multiple sides at once, and so the Ukrainians flew a UAV on one side to effectively "distract" it, while the Neptunes struck it on the other side.
- RajT88 5y ago> That suggests that the Ukrainians know about a weakness to the Russian missile defense systems... a blindspot where the RADAR wouldn't pickup enemy missiles perhaps? In any case, maybe its not so surprising, Ukrainians built the ship after all. One of the weaknesses of missile defense systems, is they can only engage a small number of targets at a time. If you knew the Moskva could engage (say) 12 incoming missiles at a time, you fire 24 all at the same time. There was some articles on it a few years back, which of course I can't find now. It was regarding virtual wargames, where one commander handily won by, basically, firing everything all at once at the start of the game.
- dragontamer 5y ago> If you knew the Moskva could engage (say) 12 incoming missiles at a time, you fire 24 all at the same time. That's the sort of thing that's a classified secret. None of us know how many missiles the Moskva could handle. But the Ukrainians knew, and fired (at least) +1 missile over its capacity. Ukrainians are savvy, but they don't have enough missiles to really be throwing "eeeh, maybe 20 at the same time is enough??". Whatever battle plan they did here and implemented was surely based on their intelligence... stuff even USA wouldn't be privy to.