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Because a state-run news site accidentally published a victory article. "Ukraine has returned to Russia...It will be reorganized, re-established and returned t

Because a state-run news site accidentally published a victory article. "Ukraine has returned to Russia...It will be reorganized, re-established and returned to its natural state as part of the Russian world...[Russia, Belarus and Ukraine will now act] in geopolitical terms as a single whole," https://www.newsweek.com/state-run-russian-news-site-accidentally-declares-ukraines-defeat-1683455 https://www.newsweek.com/state-run-russian-news-site-acciden... Also if you take the time to notice what Putin is saying and doing you will realize that denazification = genocide. The goal was not to arrest Hitler's fans but to destroy Ukrainian nationality. https://snyder.substack.com/p/russias-genocide-handbook https://snyder.substack.com/p/russias-genocide-handbook From Wikipedia. "Genocide is the intentional destruction of a people — usually defined as an ethnic, national, racial, or religious group — in whole or in part."

yucky 5y ago
>denazification = genocide Interesting take.
- SideburnsOfDoom 5y ago
  Firstly, the claim that Russia is actually doing actual "denazification" is such obvious rubbish that no sentient informed person should come close to believing it. What they do is far more informative than what they say. What they say also includes Mr Putin's frankly unhinged speeches calling for more Russian Lebensraum. Second, the point of such disinformation is not necessarily to make everyone believe this story, but to muddy that waters so much that people are no longer sure where the truth lies, they either fall back to the "well, there must be truth on both sides" or just give up on ever finding out the truth. Thus, this kind of disinformation does not need to even be self-consistent or even that believable. But it does need to be relentlessly sent out.
  - yucky 5y ago
    The Ukrainian Azov Battalion is very much proudly Nazi in their ideology, and they don't hide it. Where does this defense of them and their Nazi ideology come from? Nobody disputes they are Nazi's and yet we are supposed to defend them because Russia is the aggressor? Or is there another reason?
    - SideburnsOfDoom 5y ago
      Try harder. You haven't brought up this particular odious rubbish whataboutery in a while, as it gets [dead]. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30647861 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30647861 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30739170 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30739170
      - yucky 5y ago
        It's interesting that you don't deny The Ukrainian Azov Battalion are Nazi's, nor do you justify why we should side with them.
        SideburnsOfDoom 5y ago
        > It's interesting that you don't deny Not accurate, read the above again, and follow the links.
        yucky 5y ago
        Yes, I did and they verify the Nazi ideology of the Ukrainian Azov Battalion. Nobody denies the Azov Battalion is full of Nazi's. That's why you're being coy with your responses, rather than providing a source that would dispute it.
        SideburnsOfDoom 5y ago
        Sources and disputes have been provided to you before. It didn't change your talking point then, so it's a waste of time now.

yucky 5y ago

>denazification = genocide Interesting take.

SideburnsOfDoom 5y ago
Firstly, the claim that Russia is actually doing actual "denazification" is such obvious rubbish that no sentient informed person should come close to believing it. What they do is far more informative than what they say. What they say also includes Mr Putin's frankly unhinged speeches calling for more Russian Lebensraum. Second, the point of such disinformation is not necessarily to make everyone believe this story, but to muddy that waters so much that people are no longer sure where the truth lies, they either fall back to the "well, there must be truth on both sides" or just give up on ever finding out the truth. Thus, this kind of disinformation does not need to even be self-consistent or even that believable. But it does need to be relentlessly sent out.
- yucky 5y ago
  The Ukrainian Azov Battalion is very much proudly Nazi in their ideology, and they don't hide it. Where does this defense of them and their Nazi ideology come from? Nobody disputes they are Nazi's and yet we are supposed to defend them because Russia is the aggressor? Or is there another reason?
  - SideburnsOfDoom 5y ago
    Try harder. You haven't brought up this particular odious rubbish whataboutery in a while, as it gets [dead]. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30647861 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30647861 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30739170 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30739170
    - yucky 5y ago
      It's interesting that you don't deny The Ukrainian Azov Battalion are Nazi's, nor do you justify why we should side with them.
      - SideburnsOfDoom 5y ago
        > It's interesting that you don't deny Not accurate, read the above again, and follow the links.
        yucky 5y ago
        Yes, I did and they verify the Nazi ideology of the Ukrainian Azov Battalion. Nobody denies the Azov Battalion is full of Nazi's. That's why you're being coy with your responses, rather than providing a source that would dispute it.
        SideburnsOfDoom 5y ago
        Sources and disputes have been provided to you before. It didn't change your talking point then, so it's a waste of time now.