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KDE breaks every time you touch it. Not sure why all of these picky commenters leave that out every time we discuss DEs.

Gualdrapo 5y ago
Because it is not true. Or at least, that hasn't been my experience in the last 13 years I've been using it.
- jklinger410 5y ago
  Have you ever changed the theme?
  - smoldesu 5y ago
    I always change the theme, I've never really had it break. Most of the time I'll leave it on "Breeze" though and just change the colorscheme, but I seldom see it break in a way that's not immediately fixable (eg. switching icons to dark mode). Even when I did play with custom KDE themes, I never noticed it break much more than GNOME did with custom themes.
  - formerly_proven 5y ago
    Yes
  - approxim8ion 5y ago
    Just did. KDE is more stable than ever before. I'm on 5.24.4 on Arch, fwiw.
matheusmoreira 5y ago
I left that out because KDE never once broke when I used it.
TheCapeGreek 5y ago
KDE either works flawlessly and one praises it endlessly, or you change one setting and everything crashes at the slightest touch. I'm unfortunately in the latter camp having tried it twice over the years. My biggest issue was this: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=426644 https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=426644 I've settled on Manjaro GNOME right now because while it's not as customisable as say Cinnamon (which I started having issues with after the latest release - mainly workspace switching gradually grinding to a halt) it seems more stable than KDE. Don't have the energy to rice XFCE. There really isn't a DE that "just works".
- kasabali 5y ago
  > Don't have the energy to rice XFCE. There really isn't a DE that "just works". That's not DEs, that's your distro which requires ricing. If you install, say for example, Xubuntu, XFCE works as much as other linux DEs do. Of course it may not be just working as much as Windows or macOS does, but that's same with all linux desktop environments.
approxim8ion 5y ago
> Not sure why all of these picky commenters leave that out every time we discuss DEs. Because it's a lie.
michaelmrose 5y ago
They don't discuss it because its not their experience in the first place. Plasma has the second biggest share behind gnome without being the default on many distros. Did you really think a quarter of Linux users sat in a constantly crashing environment saying well this is fine while their computers are on fire? https://linux-hardware.org/?view=os_de&colors=30 https://linux-hardware.org/?view=os_de&colors=30 KDE doesn't have IBM/Red Hat's resources behind it. Bugs are fixed and rolled out in new versions of libraries including KDE libraries and supporting libraries from outside KDE. If fixes aren't backported and if you use a version with 19 known issues that aren't ever going to be fixed and aren't worth reporting because they in fact have already been fixed in libraries you wont have access to for the next 2 years then your experience will not match someone who is actually running recent software. I remember demoing netrunner years back when it shipped an edition that was based on Ubuntu with KDE. Everything crashed constantly. If this was my first experience with KDE I might have incorrectly come to the conclusion that KDE was unstable. In fact Netrunner made a shit show of shipping a combined package that just didn't work effectively.

Gualdrapo 5y ago

Because it is not true. Or at least, that hasn't been my experience in the last 13 years I've been using it.

jklinger410 5y ago
Have you ever changed the theme?
- smoldesu 5y ago
  I always change the theme, I've never really had it break. Most of the time I'll leave it on "Breeze" though and just change the colorscheme, but I seldom see it break in a way that's not immediately fixable (eg. switching icons to dark mode). Even when I did play with custom KDE themes, I never noticed it break much more than GNOME did with custom themes.
- formerly_proven 5y ago
  Yes
- approxim8ion 5y ago
  Just did. KDE is more stable than ever before. I'm on 5.24.4 on Arch, fwiw.

matheusmoreira 5y ago

I left that out because KDE never once broke when I used it.

TheCapeGreek 5y ago

KDE either works flawlessly and one praises it endlessly, or you change one setting and everything crashes at the slightest touch. I'm unfortunately in the latter camp having tried it twice over the years. My biggest issue was this: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=426644 https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=426644 I've settled on Manjaro GNOME right now because while it's not as customisable as say Cinnamon (which I started having issues with after the latest release - mainly workspace switching gradually grinding to a halt) it seems more stable than KDE. Don't have the energy to rice XFCE. There really isn't a DE that "just works".

kasabali 5y ago
> Don't have the energy to rice XFCE. There really isn't a DE that "just works". That's not DEs, that's your distro which requires ricing. If you install, say for example, Xubuntu, XFCE works as much as other linux DEs do. Of course it may not be just working as much as Windows or macOS does, but that's same with all linux desktop environments.

approxim8ion 5y ago

> Not sure why all of these picky commenters leave that out every time we discuss DEs. Because it's a lie.

michaelmrose 5y ago

They don't discuss it because its not their experience in the first place. Plasma has the second biggest share behind gnome without being the default on many distros. Did you really think a quarter of Linux users sat in a constantly crashing environment saying well this is fine while their computers are on fire? https://linux-hardware.org/?view=os_de&colors=30 https://linux-hardware.org/?view=os_de&colors=30 KDE doesn't have IBM/Red Hat's resources behind it. Bugs are fixed and rolled out in new versions of libraries including KDE libraries and supporting libraries from outside KDE. If fixes aren't backported and if you use a version with 19 known issues that aren't ever going to be fixed and aren't worth reporting because they in fact have already been fixed in libraries you wont have access to for the next 2 years then your experience will not match someone who is actually running recent software. I remember demoing netrunner years back when it shipped an edition that was based on Ubuntu with KDE. Everything crashed constantly. If this was my first experience with KDE I might have incorrectly come to the conclusion that KDE was unstable. In fact Netrunner made a shit show of shipping a combined package that just didn't work effectively.