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His absolutist "free speech" attitude would absolutely be horrible for Twitter. There would be literally nothing to stop bots and state-sponsored messmakers fro

His absolutist "free speech" attitude would absolutely be horrible for Twitter. There would be literally nothing to stop bots and state-sponsored messmakers from completely gaming Twitter far beyond what they already do today. I think a lot of people do not realize the can of worms they are opening when they advocate for zero moderation on a platform as large as Twitter.

eggy 5y ago
Like how Twitter memory-holed the NY Post/Biden Laptop story? Yeah, moderation, sure.
- nomorecomp 5y ago
  - coolso 5y ago
    It wasn’t given scrutiny. It was silenced. And, turns out it wasn’t misinformation either. Thank God with Musk’s new Twitter we won’t have to have this sort of discussion anymore anyway, people won’t be able to just shout Russian disinformation at anything that makes the left look bad and have Big Tech scramble to do their bidding to help influence elections.
  - boppo1 5y ago
    Perhaps you're an example of how its censorship spreads misinformation. I'm not really passionate about the Biden laptop, but my understanding is that the NYT did recently admit* that it was real and they had some sort of policy to report on it as if it weren't. If you believe the laptop story was a fabrication by right-wingers, is it possible you have been deceived? Disclaimer: I have no confidence either way to the veracity of the laptop. I don't know that much about it and whether it were true or not wouldn't change my political views much. *I googled 'NYT biden laptop' and the most legitimate looking of the results was a WSJ article. I don't have a WSJ subscription to evaluate it, however.
    - xanaxagoras 5y ago
      It's crazy to me that people _still_ don't know that it's been confirmed by a "reliable" news source. The veracity of the NY Post story wasn't controversial, just the effect it would have on getting Biden into the White House. The corporate press ran cover for the Biden family to get the outcome they wanted in the 2020 elections. https://greenwald.substack.com/p/the-nyt-now-admits-the-biden-laptop https://greenwald.substack.com/p/the-nyt-now-admits-the-bide...
  - lp0_on_fire 5y ago
    The NYTimes and Washington Post have admitted that the laptop is genuine. conveniently 18 months after that same national election.
throwawayacc2 5y ago
mkaic 5y ago
I don't think he's campaigning for "zero moderation" -- he's spoken about plans to fight bots. I think he just wants zero moderation for accounts run by actual humans, which is still a can of worms, but a different can of worms.
m3kw9 5y ago
You are assuming Elon will run Twitter to the ground based on his 2 word view. He seem smart enough to know what a middle ground is.
- qsdf38100 5y ago
  He isn’t smart. Just like trump isn’t smart. How could such guys be so successful if they aren’t smart?? Well, they are just the right amount of stupid, careless and bold to succeed in today’s world of mindless masses.
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partiallypro 5y ago
He's not a free speech absolutist (he even tried to get a particular account shutdown for tracking his private jet, albiet he was offering them money to stop), he more or less just wants a more transparent form of moderation with only moderation leaning in one direction. That's actually a -good- thing. I've seen accounts banned for mild jokes, while some accounts literally post death threats and skirt by. The Taliban, Russia, etc all have Twitter accounts at the very moment and you think this is some new thing of "state sponsored" whatever. I am pretty sure many people here with comments like this have rarely if ever used Twitter for anything.

eggy 5y ago

Like how Twitter memory-holed the NY Post/Biden Laptop story? Yeah, moderation, sure.

nomorecomp 5y ago
- coolso 5y ago
  It wasn’t given scrutiny. It was silenced. And, turns out it wasn’t misinformation either. Thank God with Musk’s new Twitter we won’t have to have this sort of discussion anymore anyway, people won’t be able to just shout Russian disinformation at anything that makes the left look bad and have Big Tech scramble to do their bidding to help influence elections.
- boppo1 5y ago
  Perhaps you're an example of how its censorship spreads misinformation. I'm not really passionate about the Biden laptop, but my understanding is that the NYT did recently admit* that it was real and they had some sort of policy to report on it as if it weren't. If you believe the laptop story was a fabrication by right-wingers, is it possible you have been deceived? Disclaimer: I have no confidence either way to the veracity of the laptop. I don't know that much about it and whether it were true or not wouldn't change my political views much. *I googled 'NYT biden laptop' and the most legitimate looking of the results was a WSJ article. I don't have a WSJ subscription to evaluate it, however.
  - xanaxagoras 5y ago
    It's crazy to me that people _still_ don't know that it's been confirmed by a "reliable" news source. The veracity of the NY Post story wasn't controversial, just the effect it would have on getting Biden into the White House. The corporate press ran cover for the Biden family to get the outcome they wanted in the 2020 elections. https://greenwald.substack.com/p/the-nyt-now-admits-the-biden-laptop https://greenwald.substack.com/p/the-nyt-now-admits-the-bide...
- lp0_on_fire 5y ago
  The NYTimes and Washington Post have admitted that the laptop is genuine. conveniently 18 months after that same national election.

throwawayacc2 5y ago

mkaic 5y ago

I don't think he's campaigning for "zero moderation" -- he's spoken about plans to fight bots. I think he just wants zero moderation for accounts run by actual humans, which is still a can of worms, but a different can of worms.

m3kw9 5y ago

You are assuming Elon will run Twitter to the ground based on his 2 word view. He seem smart enough to know what a middle ground is.

qsdf38100 5y ago
He isn’t smart. Just like trump isn’t smart. How could such guys be so successful if they aren’t smart?? Well, they are just the right amount of stupid, careless and bold to succeed in today’s world of mindless masses.
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partiallypro 5y ago

He's not a free speech absolutist (he even tried to get a particular account shutdown for tracking his private jet, albiet he was offering them money to stop), he more or less just wants a more transparent form of moderation with only moderation leaning in one direction. That's actually a -good- thing. I've seen accounts banned for mild jokes, while some accounts literally post death threats and skirt by. The Taliban, Russia, etc all have Twitter accounts at the very moment and you think this is some new thing of "state sponsored" whatever. I am pretty sure many people here with comments like this have rarely if ever used Twitter for anything.