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My new personal pet peeve has been the torturing of the word oligarch. It’s now come to mean “rich person I don’t like.” From my vantage point, it’s hard to se
by tiahura 5y ago
My new personal pet peeve has been the torturing of the word oligarch. It’s now come to mean “rich person I don’t like.”
From my vantage point, it’s hard to see how Elon Musk is making any governmental policy decisions - and thus isn’t an oligarch. But maybe you have some examples?
Musk is extremely rich and can buy a lot of stuff. That’s entirely different than determining agricultural policy, or putting people in jail, or conducting the census, or maintaining the border, or doing anything else that a ruler does.
- justinpowers 5y agoYou’re right in the sense that people often use the term imprecisely and hyperbolically, but in this discussion they are more right than wrong, at least by this measure: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oligarchy#Putative_oligarchies https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oligarchy#Putative_oligarchies > That’s entirely different than determining agricultural policy, or putting people in jail, or conducting the census, or maintaining the border, or doing anything else that a ruler does You’re making a mistake of your own by conflating oligarchy with tyranny. They often go hand in hand, with the former generally preceding the latter. So it’s probably better to cry oligarchy before it’s a given rather than afterwards.
- LaurieKoudstaal 5y agoA better term for what people are trying to articulate is plutocracy.
- agalunar 5y agoThe poorest 70–90% of Americans effectively have no representation – there is almost no correlation between their policy preferences and the voting record of their representatives. On the other hand, enacted policy aligns quite well with the interests of large corporations, and I'm not aware of any causal explanation besides the obvious one. If Elon steers Tesla and SpaceX, he is indirectly steering congress (or at least has his hand on the wheel).
- betwixthewires 5y agoThat's still a far cry away from an oligarch.
- botverse 5y agoBeing a lawmaker in the current capitalist society doesn’t make you the ruler (see lobbying). I’d say the few that rule are those with large amount of capital and influence, so oligarch is well applied here Edit: also one of the perks for rulers on the worse regimes (authoritarian regimes, monarchies) is that law is not the same for the few that tule than for the rest, law is definitely not the same from the point of view of this wealth maxers
- tiahura 5y agoWhy would you lobby someone who doesn’t rule? I’m still waiting for examples of how Musk has exercised his sovereign power.