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And while we’re on the subject, why is cell phone audio so horrible? It is worse than that delivered by the cast metal telephones with rotating dials of my you

by aj7 5y ago

And while we’re on the subject, why is cell phone audio so horrible? It is worse than that delivered by the cast metal telephones with rotating dials of my youth.

colordrops 5y ago
Does your phone not support VoLTE? You might have to explicitly turn it on. Sounds great on my phone.
jeroenhd 5y ago
It doesn't need to be. With VoLTE the sound quality is usually pretty crisp in my experience. It all depends on the carrying technology, bandwidth, compression parameters and codecs used. EVS supports up to 128kbps audio streams, which makes voice data come across crystal clear, and that's a technology from 8 years ago. One problem is the fact that the codec needs to be negotiated, and if you're unlucky with codec compatibility, both callers fall back to crappy old codecs. Then there are tons of options for audio profile selection depending on requirements and bandwidth available (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enhanced_Voice_Services https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enhanced_Voice_Services for an overview) which makes it difficult to say what cause your specific problems. Without VolTE, you're falling back to 3G audio, probably AMR or AMR-WB, which is quite old and doesn't compress as well as modern standards. Unless you mean the headphone profile for Bluetooth headsets: that's terrible because the standard is ancient, back when Bluetooth had even less capacity for low latency data transfer, and the codec is suboptimal making the situation even worse. There are better codecs out there, and some headsets will support what some call mSBC, which massively improves the audio quality (but not exactly to a HD audio stream because of limitations). There have been several proprietary attempts to fix this issue, but implementing those solutions costs money so many headphones ship without them.
kube-system 5y ago
Analog-only phones had great quality because they didn't sample voice. Once phone systems were changed to digital backbones, it became necessary to sample voices, and the sampling rates that were chosen were done so for efficiency using the tech of the time. Usually 4 khz samples. While there are better quality standards today, many phone systems will fall back on old standards.
7steps2much 5y ago
Most likely because those landline phones transmitted via a copper cable while mobile phones send the audio via a heavily compressed and shared wireless connection that isn't exactly all that reliable. Cabled connections are superior to wireless ones, even more so because traditional landlines had dedicated connections and as such had no need to compress anything.

by aj7 5y ago

And while we’re on the subject, why is cell phone audio so horrible? It is worse than that delivered by the cast metal telephones with rotating dials of my youth.

colordrops 5y ago

Does your phone not support VoLTE? You might have to explicitly turn it on. Sounds great on my phone.

jeroenhd 5y ago

It doesn't need to be. With VoLTE the sound quality is usually pretty crisp in my experience. It all depends on the carrying technology, bandwidth, compression parameters and codecs used. EVS supports up to 128kbps audio streams, which makes voice data come across crystal clear, and that's a technology from 8 years ago. One problem is the fact that the codec needs to be negotiated, and if you're unlucky with codec compatibility, both callers fall back to crappy old codecs. Then there are tons of options for audio profile selection depending on requirements and bandwidth available (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enhanced_Voice_Services https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enhanced_Voice_Services for an overview) which makes it difficult to say what cause your specific problems. Without VolTE, you're falling back to 3G audio, probably AMR or AMR-WB, which is quite old and doesn't compress as well as modern standards. Unless you mean the headphone profile for Bluetooth headsets: that's terrible because the standard is ancient, back when Bluetooth had even less capacity for low latency data transfer, and the codec is suboptimal making the situation even worse. There are better codecs out there, and some headsets will support what some call mSBC, which massively improves the audio quality (but not exactly to a HD audio stream because of limitations). There have been several proprietary attempts to fix this issue, but implementing those solutions costs money so many headphones ship without them.

kube-system 5y ago

Analog-only phones had great quality because they didn't sample voice. Once phone systems were changed to digital backbones, it became necessary to sample voices, and the sampling rates that were chosen were done so for efficiency using the tech of the time. Usually 4 khz samples. While there are better quality standards today, many phone systems will fall back on old standards.

7steps2much 5y ago

Most likely because those landline phones transmitted via a copper cable while mobile phones send the audio via a heavily compressed and shared wireless connection that isn't exactly all that reliable. Cabled connections are superior to wireless ones, even more so because traditional landlines had dedicated connections and as such had no need to compress anything.