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Eh? Not buying an iPhone is certainly a solution, but it's not the only one. If I walked into my favorite restaurant and said, "I love this place, but I wish

Eh? Not buying an iPhone is certainly a solution, but it's not the only one. If I walked into my favorite restaurant and said, "I love this place, but I wish you had slightly fresher salads," would you say, "Shut up and take a walk-- there are plenty of restaurants down the street."? Consumer feedback is important. You're probably right that the most powerful thing a consumer could do is very loudly announce that they weren't going to buy for a specific reason. But it's still plenty compelling for a business to hear, "I'll grudgingly use your app/tool, but I'm continually frustrated by X". Watch Apple-- I'd wager they respond to the "whining".

axod 18y ago
A few iphone app developers != consumers. Do you seriously think iPhone users care one bit about this?
- shawndrost 18y ago
  In a second-handed way -- it's pretty clear that iPhone developers care about this, and that iPhone users care about developers.
  - axod 18y ago
    I'd say iPhone users care about apps, or being able to do what they want to. I don't think they particularly care about developers.
- webwright 18y ago
  I'm not an iPhone app developer, but there are quite a few banned apps I'd love to use. Notably, the one mentioned in this article-- managing multiple email accounts on an iPhone is a pain in the ass.
  - axod 18y ago
    There seems to be quite a lot of support out there for jailbreaking etc if you want to install non-approved apps.
litewulf 18y ago
Actually, I think as company's get bigger, they don't hear the "I am frustrated by X", they see "ohhh we made HOW MUCH this year?" I'm sure that Apple is peopled with nice guys and all, but seriously developers are a drop in the bucket (and thus easy to ignore). Either they stand up for themselves or they are going to keep getting abused. All the talk of how developing for Apple is sharecropping is moot because people keep developing. Also, the "still pretty compelling for a business to hear"? If users said that to me I'd love it, because it means I got them. They're paying money for something that they actually disagree with. That says something about hitting the right pain points and such.

axod 18y ago

A few iphone app developers != consumers. Do you seriously think iPhone users care one bit about this?

shawndrost 18y ago
In a second-handed way -- it's pretty clear that iPhone developers care about this, and that iPhone users care about developers.
- axod 18y ago
  I'd say iPhone users care about apps, or being able to do what they want to. I don't think they particularly care about developers.
webwright 18y ago
I'm not an iPhone app developer, but there are quite a few banned apps I'd love to use. Notably, the one mentioned in this article-- managing multiple email accounts on an iPhone is a pain in the ass.
- axod 18y ago
  There seems to be quite a lot of support out there for jailbreaking etc if you want to install non-approved apps.

litewulf 18y ago

Actually, I think as company's get bigger, they don't hear the "I am frustrated by X", they see "ohhh we made HOW MUCH this year?" I'm sure that Apple is peopled with nice guys and all, but seriously developers are a drop in the bucket (and thus easy to ignore). Either they stand up for themselves or they are going to keep getting abused. All the talk of how developing for Apple is sharecropping is moot because people keep developing. Also, the "still pretty compelling for a business to hear"? If users said that to me I'd love it, because it means I got them. They're paying money for something that they actually disagree with. That says something about hitting the right pain points and such.