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Yes but here’s your right wing authoritarian lean; seeing this research as some form of truth and power to wield. There’s absolutely no reason to see these aut

Yes but here’s your right wing authoritarian lean; seeing this research as some form of truth and power to wield. There’s absolutely no reason to see these authors as correct. In fact it appears to have triggered confirmation bias; the right in the US caged kids, confiscated land to build a useless wall, suspended Habeas Corpus over 9/11, both sides and the patriot act; no right wing voters stood up to stop them, and is often cheering on their book burning and gun waving threats. But this confirms to you the left are the vile aggressors of the last 30 years? When the politicians and their party cheer or idly ignore the platforms issues, calling everyone else fascist you jump the shark completely. Appeals to far away high minded authority are pretty traditional human authoritarian. Researchers can show up and grow some potatoes, kill their next steak; contribute to the hands on mess. Their theories aren’t solving day to day issues for them, poorer workers are. Otherwise this is merely leveraging the currently acceptable form of feudalism to command more attention than “essential workers”. When the right is not batshit insane, violating others rights in a gaudy display of how free they are to do so, we can talk about others. Frankly; both sides are apathetic cowards who kowtow to political tradition and have no clue how to work together freely; they bleat about one side or the other while circling around the same politically captured economic scheme with each other. The problem is you all repeating there are two sides due to repetitive exposure, when it’s just other people.

pmdulaney 4y ago
We do have our crazies on the right, but for the most part they are pathetically irrelevant and easily ignored. Perhaps the best evidence of this is that I can freely criticize the excesses on the right without fear of retribution! Even staunch liberals in academia are afraid of criticizing the left or of violating their many strictures on free speech for fear of being cancelled. Where I most agree with you is with regard to January 6th. It is shameful that Trump fomented violence, and almost worse that Liz Cheney is being ostracized for speaking the truth and doing what is right.
- yehBu77 4y ago
  Yeah no one has had to fear retribution for speaking against conservatives; oh wait here in my community they were driving around targeting “leftists” and minorities. Sorry but by continuing to deflect and project to spare your pride, and cling to traditional political divisions is … words like left and right in the context of politics mean nothing to me. You may as well be speaking in tongues. “Colorless green ideas sleep furiously.” is what it all feels like to me. I’m not saying you have to customize for my sensibilities; I’m saying I’m not customizing myself for yours. Dem or Rep they’re just one of seven billion to me. I give neither platform special consideration and focus on the politician individually. Free people who would manage their own affairs do not set aside management of those affairs in deference to aristocrats and parties controlled by their wealth. If you have actual information, metaphor and analogy that’s useful to future planning of real human needs, let’s talk. I simply cannot LARP American Civic Life: The Cablr News Show! anymore
  - pmdulaney 4y ago
    I've been reading some Jacques Ellul about propaganda, and I have to say you're not letting the culture at large lead you by the nose! I'm also reminded of a quote from Edward Abbey: "Grown men don't need leaders." Peace to you.

pmdulaney 4y ago

We do have our crazies on the right, but for the most part they are pathetically irrelevant and easily ignored. Perhaps the best evidence of this is that I can freely criticize the excesses on the right without fear of retribution! Even staunch liberals in academia are afraid of criticizing the left or of violating their many strictures on free speech for fear of being cancelled. Where I most agree with you is with regard to January 6th. It is shameful that Trump fomented violence, and almost worse that Liz Cheney is being ostracized for speaking the truth and doing what is right.

yehBu77 4y ago
Yeah no one has had to fear retribution for speaking against conservatives; oh wait here in my community they were driving around targeting “leftists” and minorities. Sorry but by continuing to deflect and project to spare your pride, and cling to traditional political divisions is … words like left and right in the context of politics mean nothing to me. You may as well be speaking in tongues. “Colorless green ideas sleep furiously.” is what it all feels like to me. I’m not saying you have to customize for my sensibilities; I’m saying I’m not customizing myself for yours. Dem or Rep they’re just one of seven billion to me. I give neither platform special consideration and focus on the politician individually. Free people who would manage their own affairs do not set aside management of those affairs in deference to aristocrats and parties controlled by their wealth. If you have actual information, metaphor and analogy that’s useful to future planning of real human needs, let’s talk. I simply cannot LARP American Civic Life: The Cablr News Show! anymore
- pmdulaney 4y ago
  I've been reading some Jacques Ellul about propaganda, and I have to say you're not letting the culture at large lead you by the nose! I'm also reminded of a quote from Edward Abbey: "Grown men don't need leaders." Peace to you.