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I know you're being snarky, but success as a hyper-capitalist is less and less a good thing to many people, and not really a sign of great intelligence (more ps

I know you're being snarky, but success as a hyper-capitalist is less and less a good thing to many people, and not really a sign of great intelligence (more psychopathy, if anything). His behavior is very often so incredibly childlike that it's hard to excuse on his business success. Even this! A share price based on $4.20; Really?! Again with that? He is clearly trolling and it's working because here everyone is talking about it.

next_xibalba 5y ago
I don't agree with your claims, but they are beside the point. His track record speaks for itself. I would certainly have far more confidence in Musk than the current leadership team. Musk is at least competent in software engineering, aerospace engineering, and finance. It is hard not to see that as a strong indicator of an intelligence well above average. People bend over backwards to look past the glaring facts about Musk that contradict their biases. Musk is hyper intelligent. Musk is one the most successful business people of all time.
- 2fast4you 4y ago
  Why are you deifying him? He's not anymore special than the rest of us, he just has a lot of money.
  - dlivingston 4y ago
    It’s not a deification to recognize that the total upheaval and reinvention of three industries - automobiles and aerospace and finance - is something that very, very few people could do, even if they had luck and fortune going into it.
    - 2fast4you 4y ago
      Aerospace sure, but automobiles and finance? Musk just bought Tesla, and he was fired from PayPal because he wanted to replace all of their Unix infrastructure with Windows. I’m not saying he’s dumb, he’s clearly a smart guy, but I don’t think he’s anything special
      - next_xibalba 4y ago
        Zip2: Musk wrote the software for drawing vector maps & calculating point to point directions anywhere in US. Sold it for $300M. PayPal: Musk founded X.com. X merged with PayPal. Through that merger, Musk became PayPal's largest shareholder. He was ousted as the company's CEO. He did attempt to move the company's tech onto Windows. None of this invalidates his accomplishment's at PayPal. To wit, he walked away with $100M. Tesla: Musk did not buy Tesla. 8 months after Tesla was founded, he funded the majority of Tesla's series A at which time he became the chairman of its board. He then stepped into the CEO role and has maintained that role ever since. SpaceX: Musk trained himself in rocket engineering and pioneered private spaceflight while pushing rocket tech far into the future. Self landing rockets. <- I don't even need a full sentence. Self. Landing. ROCKETS!!!! Its very important to get the facts right before moving on to interpretation. Of course, Musk didn't do all of this himself. He has again and again hired top notch engineers and scientists. But even in the most biased publications, his critics begrudgingly acknowledge his technical prowess and commercial acumen. Again, just look at the list of accomplishments. He is a man, not a god. But in these domains, he is absolutely something special. Many sigma special.
      - psyc 4y ago
        “What the hell have y’all done, to even have an opinion on what I’ve been doing?” Jay Z
      - dlivingston 4y ago
        I don’t know much beyond the surface w.r.t. PayPal, but it’s quite a distortion of history to claim that all Musk did was ‘just buy Tesla’. Why I think he upended the auto industry: - He bought Tesla within the first two years (IIRC) of it being founded; before there was even a working prototype - He laid out the groundwork for the three-stage plan, and followed through - Stage 1: Prototype -> Roadster - Stage 2: Model S/X - Stage 3: Model 3/Y - He adopted high-tech in Teslas which make them compelling and ‘cool’ (for the general public), through Autopilot, games (Cuphead, Asteroids, etc), video (Netflix, Hulu, Disney+, etc), OTA software updates, and more And, the most important piece: - He led and developed the Supercharger network initiative, partially solving the problem of EVs as true ICE replacements Each of those decisions could have, and likely would have, been handled differently by Random CEO. It was only through each of those decisions, and a lot of luck, that Tesla is a viable car company today. I’m quick to criticize Musk, but what he did with Tesla is truly incredible and deserving of praise.
  - GauntletWizard 4y ago
    He's an asshole but an effective one. I didn't take a job with him because I didn't like him, but I also don't think I would have made the same choice at a different phase of my life.

next_xibalba 5y ago

I don't agree with your claims, but they are beside the point. His track record speaks for itself. I would certainly have far more confidence in Musk than the current leadership team. Musk is at least competent in software engineering, aerospace engineering, and finance. It is hard not to see that as a strong indicator of an intelligence well above average. People bend over backwards to look past the glaring facts about Musk that contradict their biases. Musk is hyper intelligent. Musk is one the most successful business people of all time.

2fast4you 4y ago
Why are you deifying him? He's not anymore special than the rest of us, he just has a lot of money.
- dlivingston 4y ago
  It’s not a deification to recognize that the total upheaval and reinvention of three industries - automobiles and aerospace and finance - is something that very, very few people could do, even if they had luck and fortune going into it.
  - 2fast4you 4y ago
    Aerospace sure, but automobiles and finance? Musk just bought Tesla, and he was fired from PayPal because he wanted to replace all of their Unix infrastructure with Windows. I’m not saying he’s dumb, he’s clearly a smart guy, but I don’t think he’s anything special
    - next_xibalba 4y ago
      Zip2: Musk wrote the software for drawing vector maps & calculating point to point directions anywhere in US. Sold it for $300M. PayPal: Musk founded X.com. X merged with PayPal. Through that merger, Musk became PayPal's largest shareholder. He was ousted as the company's CEO. He did attempt to move the company's tech onto Windows. None of this invalidates his accomplishment's at PayPal. To wit, he walked away with $100M. Tesla: Musk did not buy Tesla. 8 months after Tesla was founded, he funded the majority of Tesla's series A at which time he became the chairman of its board. He then stepped into the CEO role and has maintained that role ever since. SpaceX: Musk trained himself in rocket engineering and pioneered private spaceflight while pushing rocket tech far into the future. Self landing rockets. <- I don't even need a full sentence. Self. Landing. ROCKETS!!!! Its very important to get the facts right before moving on to interpretation. Of course, Musk didn't do all of this himself. He has again and again hired top notch engineers and scientists. But even in the most biased publications, his critics begrudgingly acknowledge his technical prowess and commercial acumen. Again, just look at the list of accomplishments. He is a man, not a god. But in these domains, he is absolutely something special. Many sigma special.
    - psyc 4y ago
      “What the hell have y’all done, to even have an opinion on what I’ve been doing?” Jay Z
    - dlivingston 4y ago
      I don’t know much beyond the surface w.r.t. PayPal, but it’s quite a distortion of history to claim that all Musk did was ‘just buy Tesla’. Why I think he upended the auto industry: - He bought Tesla within the first two years (IIRC) of it being founded; before there was even a working prototype - He laid out the groundwork for the three-stage plan, and followed through - Stage 1: Prototype -> Roadster - Stage 2: Model S/X - Stage 3: Model 3/Y - He adopted high-tech in Teslas which make them compelling and ‘cool’ (for the general public), through Autopilot, games (Cuphead, Asteroids, etc), video (Netflix, Hulu, Disney+, etc), OTA software updates, and more And, the most important piece: - He led and developed the Supercharger network initiative, partially solving the problem of EVs as true ICE replacements Each of those decisions could have, and likely would have, been handled differently by Random CEO. It was only through each of those decisions, and a lot of luck, that Tesla is a viable car company today. I’m quick to criticize Musk, but what he did with Tesla is truly incredible and deserving of praise.
- GauntletWizard 4y ago
  He's an asshole but an effective one. I didn't take a job with him because I didn't like him, but I also don't think I would have made the same choice at a different phase of my life.