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I have to admit: I hope this happens mostly for the entertainment value. Also, I think that this business of shutting down opinions of people we dislike or dis

I have to admit: I hope this happens mostly for the entertainment value. Also, I think that this business of shutting down opinions of people we dislike or disagree with is really bad for society long term. I think Musk might stop that.

greenhorn123 5y ago
I am 100% sure that Musk would be fine with people criticizing him, Tesla or SpaceX or anything else that he has a hand in and would never shut anything like that down. Like that time when he started a personal vendetta against someone who suggested he didn't know what he was talking ... oh, wait.
rootusrootus 5y ago
> I think Musk might stop that. Given how he responds to employees at his companies exercising their free speech rights, you may be disappointed.
bluehorseray 5y ago
I agree. People on HN love to theorize about reshaping current social media platforms, and now we may get to see someone actually attempt to do it. I hope people aren't so invested in Twitter they would rather this not happen.
Lutger 5y ago
I'm of the opposite opinion. I think being even more lax than Zuckerberg on psy-ops, hate speech, denialism, racism and misinformation will be quite dangerous to society. Some of the necessary conditions of speech itself might collapse, in a way that the very idea of 'speech' will become nearly impossible. It will be terrible, for the Western democracies anyway - it will likely help Putin and Xi tremendously though.
- whimsicalism 5y ago
  - boppo1 5y ago
    Do you have reliable evidence it wasn't a right-wing fabrication?
    - whimsicalism 5y ago
      ? Fabrication? There was no credible evidence ever presented that it was a fabrication or that Russia had anything to do with it. Here is the Washington Post: https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/03/30/hunter-biden-laptop-data-examined/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/03/30/hunter-... You are reasoning from your beliefs.
      - boppo1 5y ago
        I'm not reasoning, I'm playing devil's advocate as someone who is laptop-agnostic. A couple posts back in my history you can see I wrote the converse to someone. Also, it's not that the laptop is a right-wing fabrication, but the... uh... existence of material relevance to the election I think? Something about it was dismissed as right-wing misinfo but, again, idk enough about the topic, I'm just trying to see what I can gather from different views now that the dust has settled.
        whimsicalism 5y ago
        Fair enough. If the charge is that it was sequestered by members of the right-wing and then intentionally released right before the election to influence the outcome, then yes that is definitely true. But there were claims that this was a hoax, forged documents, or sourced from Russia. There has never been any evidence backing those claims, AFAIK.

greenhorn123 5y ago

I am 100% sure that Musk would be fine with people criticizing him, Tesla or SpaceX or anything else that he has a hand in and would never shut anything like that down. Like that time when he started a personal vendetta against someone who suggested he didn't know what he was talking ... oh, wait.

rootusrootus 5y ago

> I think Musk might stop that. Given how he responds to employees at his companies exercising their free speech rights, you may be disappointed.

bluehorseray 5y ago

I agree. People on HN love to theorize about reshaping current social media platforms, and now we may get to see someone actually attempt to do it. I hope people aren't so invested in Twitter they would rather this not happen.

Lutger 5y ago

I'm of the opposite opinion. I think being even more lax than Zuckerberg on psy-ops, hate speech, denialism, racism and misinformation will be quite dangerous to society. Some of the necessary conditions of speech itself might collapse, in a way that the very idea of 'speech' will become nearly impossible. It will be terrible, for the Western democracies anyway - it will likely help Putin and Xi tremendously though.

whimsicalism 5y ago
- boppo1 5y ago
  Do you have reliable evidence it wasn't a right-wing fabrication?
  - whimsicalism 5y ago
    ? Fabrication? There was no credible evidence ever presented that it was a fabrication or that Russia had anything to do with it. Here is the Washington Post: https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/03/30/hunter-biden-laptop-data-examined/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/03/30/hunter-... You are reasoning from your beliefs.
    - boppo1 5y ago
      I'm not reasoning, I'm playing devil's advocate as someone who is laptop-agnostic. A couple posts back in my history you can see I wrote the converse to someone. Also, it's not that the laptop is a right-wing fabrication, but the... uh... existence of material relevance to the election I think? Something about it was dismissed as right-wing misinfo but, again, idk enough about the topic, I'm just trying to see what I can gather from different views now that the dust has settled.
      - whimsicalism 5y ago
        Fair enough. If the charge is that it was sequestered by members of the right-wing and then intentionally released right before the election to influence the outcome, then yes that is definitely true. But there were claims that this was a hoax, forged documents, or sourced from Russia. There has never been any evidence backing those claims, AFAIK.