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Because Russia has used its free speech how? Internally they ban all opposition media, which is not free speech, it's only hearing from propaganda. Considerin
by cloutchaser 5y ago
Because Russia has used its free speech how?
Internally they ban all opposition media, which is not free speech, it's only hearing from propaganda.
Considering the events of the last 2 months, has Russia really managed to turn the west pro Russia or anti Ukraine at all?
I literally don't understand what you are trying to say.
- etrautmann 5y agoI would guess the parent intended to convey that Russia weaponizes free speech in the US via troll farms/etc for foreign influence, not that they have it domestically?
- watwut 5y agoThat actually makes it make sense. Thank you.
- croes 5y agoExactly
- cloutchaser 5y agoSeems like my point has gone right over everyone's head who answered... How well has what Russia done worked? Like how loved is Russia right now in the west? How many people agree with it? (sidenote: the russia brexit involvement has been 100% disproven. The Trump russia thing has been 100% disproven. The hunter biden laptop was not russian disinformation)
- croes 5y agoIt's not about love for russia, it's about doubt in western science and governments. How many people reject vaccines? How many belief the governments are controlled by a secret elite? Even flat earthers are linked to russian psyops.
- croes 5y agoBTW how was russia's involvement in brexit disproved? It's unproven but that's not the same https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_interference_in_the_2016_Brexit_referendum https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_interference_in_the_... Looks more like they tried but with minor effect at most.
- suction 5y agoRussia has free speech in that, until very recently, they were allowed to spew their fake news propaganda in Western countries through outlets like RT, Sputnik, Zero Hedge (that one's still on), etc. etc. Maybe nobody who greenlighted the licenses to those channels could believe that there are enough idiots domestically who would not recognize it as lies and propaganda? As recent history has proven, there are always enough idiots to believe anything. If you have absolute free speech, you'll have to allow the media of other countries (China, NK, Russia, who have you) to disseminate propaganda to your citizens until something like Jan. 6th happens.
- Dangeranger 5y agoRussia has been using sock puppet accounts to spread manipulative propaganda throughout western democracies for over two decades. They’ve been especially effective in the last ten years. Their goal of fomenting grievances among the factions within democracies, combined with a global refugee crisis they helped create in Syria has resulted in the rise of authoritarian leaders within over a dozen countries. In other words, the Russian regimes free speech has given rise to authoritarians who would in all likelihood, limit free speech in other countries if or when they rise to power. “Free speech for me, but not for thee.”
- loudmax 5y agoAbsolutely this. Not just the rise of authoritarian leaders, but promoting both extreme left and extreme right political opinions leading to questioning the legitimacy of democratically elected leaders and the destabilization of free societies.
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- croes 5y agoMaybe you should look at the german Querdenker scene. They didn't use russia's free speech but ours to turn our people against us.