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It's a pity that he chose to withdraw it, it would be great if high profile people like Steve could say stuff like this and stand by it without having to fear f

by 0x12 15y ago

It's a pity that he chose to withdraw it, it would be great if high profile people like Steve could say stuff like this and stand by it without having to fear for fall-out. After all, the big winners from a piece like this are Google and Amazon, Amazon obviously have some big problems (see Nirvana's post above) and the sooner it gets to the attention of their top level execs the better. Stuff like this can rot your company from the inside out, and being transparent about it (and even public) can help a lot.

david927 15y ago
Wow. I know so little about the internal workings of Google and had such a good impression of them until today. The Wave post and now this -- not the post which was constructive and insightful, no company is perfect and it's important to examine flaws -- but for the decision to pull the post. Shameful. Steve is only wrong with one point: Google's reputation for arrogance seems actually well-deserved.
- 0x12 15y ago
  Well, the google PR people actually didn't do anything to tell him to withdraw the post, so that is his own decision.
  - david927 15y ago
    This is one of the very few times I've seen Steve back-off of a provocative statement; whatever made that happen does not bode well for Google and I think my point stands.
    - 0x12 15y ago
      It may have been a case of not wanting to embarrass his former employer, Amazon.
      - david927 15y ago
        That absolutely could be. I shouldn't judge. Apologies.
    - someone13 15y ago
      I don't get the impression that he was "forced" to back off, but rather that he accidentally posted something that was meant for internal consumption in public. I think it's perfectly within his rights to delete the post - most people don't talk the same way with their co-workers as they do in public, and it's perfectly understandable.
      - david927 15y ago
        I completely get that now, and I retract my comments. I'm sorry if I cast any undue aspersions.

by 0x12 15y ago

david927 15y ago

Wow. I know so little about the internal workings of Google and had such a good impression of them until today. The Wave post and now this -- not the post which was constructive and insightful, no company is perfect and it's important to examine flaws -- but for the decision to pull the post. Shameful. Steve is only wrong with one point: Google's reputation for arrogance seems actually well-deserved.

0x12 15y ago
Well, the google PR people actually didn't do anything to tell him to withdraw the post, so that is his own decision.
- david927 15y ago
  This is one of the very few times I've seen Steve back-off of a provocative statement; whatever made that happen does not bode well for Google and I think my point stands.
  - 0x12 15y ago
    It may have been a case of not wanting to embarrass his former employer, Amazon.
    - david927 15y ago
      That absolutely could be. I shouldn't judge. Apologies.
  - someone13 15y ago
    I don't get the impression that he was "forced" to back off, but rather that he accidentally posted something that was meant for internal consumption in public. I think it's perfectly within his rights to delete the post - most people don't talk the same way with their co-workers as they do in public, and it's perfectly understandable.
    - david927 15y ago
      I completely get that now, and I retract my comments. I'm sorry if I cast any undue aspersions.