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Single use plastics utensils and straws are literally needless garbage in 99% of cases. They so easy to avoid needing, but because people are used to it they ac

by mint2 5y ago

Single use plastics utensils and straws are literally needless garbage in 99% of cases. They so easy to avoid needing, but because people are used to it they act like their right to life and liberty is being taken away. This actually makes it harder for the 1% so percent that actually have a hard time without them because it requires broad stroke regulations when people are so recalcitrant over minor changes.

vba616 5y ago
>This actually makes it harder for the 1% so percent that actually have a hard time without them I don't understand what you're trying to say. People who want to police straw usage are not at fault for making life difficult for the 1% who really need straws...because? Who decides that they are less important than stopping the 99% from using straws?
mcphage 5y ago
I’m fine with making changes, but paper straws are just a bad product. They have one job to do, and they don’t do it. If you’re going to get rid of plastic straws, at least replace them with something that accomplishes the goal.
- d_tr 5y ago
  I recently bought a small set of metal ones and they are not bad at all. The downside is that they need cleaning.
- washadjeffmad 5y ago
  I think some paper straw designs are bad, especially recent ones created solely to capitalize on this. However, I've used some that were stiffened with wax (not good for hot drinks but stronger when chilled - great for milkshakes), and some that were rectangular that bent like a gutter drain that were pretty pleasant. I don't think it's beyond possibility to create thoughtful, functional paper straws. In general, I'd rather use anything besides plastic and I don't really use straws, so the existence of bad straws doesn't affect me. I own a few metal ones that probably took more energy to create than all of the straws I've used in the past two decades, but whatever.
  - mcphage 5y ago
    > I don't think it's beyond possibility to create thoughtful, functional paper straws. I agree, it's probably solvable—but the vast majority of paper straws that are I've received, aren't that. If they can get a good paper straw, I'd be fine with it.

by mint2 5y ago

vba616 5y ago

>This actually makes it harder for the 1% so percent that actually have a hard time without them I don't understand what you're trying to say. People who want to police straw usage are not at fault for making life difficult for the 1% who really need straws...because? Who decides that they are less important than stopping the 99% from using straws?

mcphage 5y ago

I’m fine with making changes, but paper straws are just a bad product. They have one job to do, and they don’t do it. If you’re going to get rid of plastic straws, at least replace them with something that accomplishes the goal.

d_tr 5y ago
I recently bought a small set of metal ones and they are not bad at all. The downside is that they need cleaning.
washadjeffmad 5y ago
I think some paper straw designs are bad, especially recent ones created solely to capitalize on this. However, I've used some that were stiffened with wax (not good for hot drinks but stronger when chilled - great for milkshakes), and some that were rectangular that bent like a gutter drain that were pretty pleasant. I don't think it's beyond possibility to create thoughtful, functional paper straws. In general, I'd rather use anything besides plastic and I don't really use straws, so the existence of bad straws doesn't affect me. I own a few metal ones that probably took more energy to create than all of the straws I've used in the past two decades, but whatever.
- mcphage 5y ago
  > I don't think it's beyond possibility to create thoughtful, functional paper straws. I agree, it's probably solvable—but the vast majority of paper straws that are I've received, aren't that. If they can get a good paper straw, I'd be fine with it.